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Pretty crazy stuff...I have a Ukrainian friend, and he is over there now. The images/videos are surreal.

Live Stream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/euromajdan/pop-out

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Jan 21, 2014 8:09am
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This is what happens when you try to make protesting illegal.
Jan 21, 2014 8:27am
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I Wear Pants;1570108 wrote:This is what happens when you try to make protesting illegal.

This what happen when goverment control and rules the country and citizen don't have weapons, rights or freedom to choose.
Jan 21, 2014 8:55am
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Belly35;1570114 wrote:This what happen when goverment control and rules the country and citizen don't have weapons, rights or freedom to choose.
Lol. Ukraine lets people have weapons.

Also:

Jan 21, 2014 10:22am
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Does the govt "let" them have wepeons or do they just have them?
Jan 21, 2014 10:36am
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How long before the united states is shared around the world for having a "revolution?"
Jan 21, 2014 11:04am
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No comprendo.
Jan 21, 2014 11:07am
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ernest_t_bass;1570171 wrote:How long before the united states is shared around the world for having a "revolution?"
10 to 1 video of Belly trying to stop a tank with his pistol goes viral
Jan 21, 2014 11:54am
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Tiernan;1570158 wrote:Does the govt "let" them have wepeons or do they just have them?

You ate allowed to own firearms in Ukraine. There are some restrictions but this isn't a country where guns are banned. Ukraine's government has made some poor choices but it has absolutely nothing to do with their gun laws unlike what Belly said.
Jan 21, 2014 12:57pm
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I think it's fair in this situation to say "Fuck the police".
Jan 22, 2014 5:51pm
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Yeah fuck the police.





Jan 22, 2014 11:26pm
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^have you been keeping up with this story at all? The American media won't air this story, so it's easy to see how one could look at a citizen throwing a molotov cocktail at a police officer and think they are bad people, but try reading up on what the Ukrainian government is doing to their people, then let us know if you still don't say "fuck the police".
Jan 22, 2014 11:57pm
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This is pretty crazy.

Why the hell are the media outlets not running this more?
Jan 23, 2014 3:32am
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O-Trap;1571013 wrote:This is pretty crazy.

Why the hell are the media outlets not running this more?
Because it has nothing to do with a celebrity pop-star, a Republican's scandal, or white girls disappearing.
Jan 23, 2014 8:22am
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O-Trap;1571013 wrote:
Why the hell are the media outlets not running this more?
Obama
Jan 23, 2014 8:22am
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SportsAndLady;1571011 wrote:^have you been keeping up with this story at all? The American media won't air this story, so it's easy to see how one could look at a citizen throwing a molotov cocktail at a police officer and think they are bad people, but try reading up on what the Ukrainian government is doing to their people, then let us know if you still don't say "fuck the police".
Makes me wonder if the police are part of the goverment, or if they are truly trying to keep peace and are ordinary citizens like the ones attacking them. I think police in the US are often put in bad spots, because people tend to act out on them for doing their jobs, and the people who make up the police force aren't taking a side.
Jan 23, 2014 8:49am
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WebFire;1571051 wrote:Makes me wonder if the police are part of the goverment, or if they are truly trying to keep peace and are ordinary citizens like the ones attacking them. I think police in the US are often put in bad spots, because people tend to act out on them for doing their jobs, and the people who make up the police force aren't taking a side.

The "they're normal people trying to provide for their families" argument is a valid one until certain points. One of those points is throwing molotovs at citizens, at that point you're actively participating in the type of thing that makes people need to protest in the first place.
Jan 23, 2014 10:50am
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I Wear Pants;1571126 wrote:The "they're normal people trying to provide for their families" argument is a valid one until certain points. One of those points is throwing molotovs at citizens, at that point you're actively participating in the type of thing that makes people need to protest in the first place.
Correct. Guess I was referring to before that point. :)

However, if they truly are regular citizens, I'm sure they would get worn down to the point of retaliating. Human emotion can only take so much.
Jan 23, 2014 11:30am
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From my very small understanding of it, they are not your normal cops. They are government police almost. Like our national guard, if our national guard were entirely corrupt.
Jan 23, 2014 8:35pm
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Bieber getting arrested was clearly the most important story of the day.
Jan 23, 2014 9:06pm
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The police are called "berkut"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkut_(Ukraine)

They are getting paid more to "eliminate the protesters"
Jan 23, 2014 9:12pm
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SportsAndLady;1571446 wrote:Here's the Ukrainian police...ordinary citizens, just trying to keep the peace

NSFW, you will see a dick

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pravda.com.ua%2Frus%2Fnews%2F2014%2F01%2F23%2F7010998%2F
Yeah, this needs more airtime. I'm so tired of the US news sources.
I Wear Pants;1571451 wrote:Bieber getting arrested was clearly the most important story of the day.
I seriously hope whoever thinks this is news gets a minor injury today. I'm tired of celebrity gossip being covered by any news source that considers itself respectable. TMZ and such ... sure. That's what they cover. But the other outlets ought to be ashamed of themselves if they're covering this kind of thing.
Jan 23, 2014 9:58pm