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Dec 25, 2013 12:30 AM
isadore;1557294 wrote:In answer to his claim that there was no local racial violence and that the blacks were contented, happy and not singing the blues. Several examples of the long term history of racism and violence from Caddo Parish and Shreveport, its largest city. All examples have sources.
577# Examples of his hating homosexual.
Several examples of racism and happening in Caddo parish at the time Phil Robertson was living there. We have one example of Sam Cooke, famous black pioneer of rock and roll, being denied a room at the whites only holiday inn, leading for him to write a song singing the blues. All examples have citations
And as I said this showed Phil Robertson is a lying, homophobic racist, but of course you will find away to deny the charges and the overwhelming evidence to support them.
Please show me where I have showed any support for Phil Robertson.

You won't and can't because I never have once said anything of the like. But, you have your agenda and you don't care what anyone else has to say, regardless of what it is.
Dec 25, 2013 12:30am
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Dec 25, 2013 1:04 AM
isadore;1557311 wrote:Hey chief, I realize you prefer not to read but look what was happening around him. As my earlier posts have shown, Caddo Parish, where he grew up, was soaked with racism and intimidation. But despite local blacks resisted Jim Crow. Heck Sam Cooke even wrote a song about it. Phil Robertson is a lying, homophobic racist.
White, black, or green. They were all poor as fuck working the fields singing along to get through the day
Dec 25, 2013 1:04am
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Dec 25, 2013 8:57 AM
isadore;1557309 wrote:I don't know about you, but he is more sinful than me. As a person of influence in our society he choses to advance homophobia and racism.

What he or you is sinful about matters not in God's eyes.
Dec 25, 2013 8:57am
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Dec 25, 2013 10:00 AM
isadore;1557309 wrote:I don't know about you, but he is more sinful than me. As a person of influence in our society he choses to advance homophobia and racism.
Really can we add Obama, Eric Holder, Michelle Obama just to get started making a list ....
Dec 25, 2013 10:00am
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Dec 25, 2013 10:16 AM
O-Trap;1557325 wrote:If only isadore used as much sound logic, love for his fellow man, and maturity as these:

(a)


(b)
http://therightscoop.com/gay-tmz-founder-slams-glaad-they-preach-tolerance-but-they-wont-tolerate-phil-robertsons-religious-beliefs/

[video=youtube;LdQrgoqiq6Y][/video]


MUCH respect for how Harvey Levin has articulated himself. Was never a fan of TMZ, but I'm at least a fan of his.
Gosh a ruddies maybe Mr. Levin should read this example of Robertson's loving Christian tolerance:
Robertson in 2010: " Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions. They’re full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant, God-haters. They are heartless, they are faithless, they are senseless, they are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil."
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And he is very condemning the person not the act.
Dec 25, 2013 10:16am
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Dec 25, 2013 10:25 AM
I'm gonna start posting in the style of Isadore
Dec 25, 2013 10:25am
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Dec 25, 2013 10:26 AM
Gosh a ruddies. I'm gonna start posting in the style of Isadore
Dec 25, 2013 10:26am
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Dec 25, 2013 10:26 AM
As my earlier posts have shown, I'm gonna start posting in the style of Isadore
Dec 25, 2013 10:26am
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 10:45 AM
OSH;1557327 wrote:Please show me where I have showed any support for Phil Robertson.

You won't and can't because I never have once said anything of the like. But, you have your agenda and you don't care what anyone else has to say, regardless of what it is.
lol, gosh a ruddies 21 posts on this topic, you consistently rationalize and excuse the despicable comments by this racist, homophobic bigot.
Dec 25, 2013 10:45am
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 10:51 AM
bases_loaded;1557329 wrote:White, black, or green. They were all poor as fuck working the fields singing along to get through the day
gosh, I don't know about the green but what has been shown is the jim crow racism and violence found in Caddo Parish and the black resistance to it. Much of it was happening right when Phil was there. He is a lying racist defending American Apartheid.
Dec 25, 2013 10:51am
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 10:55 AM
Con_Alma;1557343 wrote:What he or you is sinful about matters not in God's eyes.
Far from repenting he continues to be a national spokesman for racism and homophobia.
Dec 25, 2013 10:55am
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 10:57 AM
Belly35;1557353 wrote:Really can we add Obama, Eric Holder, Michelle Obama just to get started making a list ....
Gosh I am sure you will tell me how they are spokespeople for racism and homophobia?
Dec 25, 2013 10:57am
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 11:00 AM
LJ;1557359 wrote:Gosh a ruddies. I'm gonna start posting in the style of Isadore
This is to inform you that I am in the process of having Gosh a ruddies copyrighted.
Dec 25, 2013 11:00am
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Con_Alma

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Dec 25, 2013 11:02 AM
isadore;1557369 wrote:Far from repenting he continues to be a national spokesman for racism and homophobia.
...and yet both you, me and Mr. Robinson continue to sin in thought word and action making not one person better or worse in God's eyes.
Dec 25, 2013 11:02am
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 11:30 AM
Con_Alma;1557372 wrote:...and yet both you, me and Mr. Robinson continue to sin in thought word and action making not one person better or worse in God's eyes.
Nate Archer-
All else being equal, the greater our influence, the greater the sin. (See for example James 3:1)
Dec 25, 2013 11:30am
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Con_Alma

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Dec 25, 2013 12:07 PM
Nate Archer is not God.
Dec 25, 2013 12:07pm
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 12:27 PM
Con_Alma;1557381 wrote:Nate Archer is not God.
How about James 3:1
Dec 25, 2013 12:27pm
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Con_Alma

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Dec 25, 2013 12:46 PM
How about it indeed.

Those who teach will be judged more strictly. More critical evaluation, once determined as sinful, doesn't equate to greater damnation.

Condemnation or eternally being without God is the greatest negative result poured upon the soul. Having more scrutiny in what may or may not be a sin doesn't result in any greater penalty.

At the same time, in regard to both eternal consequences and salvation, all sins are the same. Every sin will lead to eternal condemnation Romans 6:23. All sin, no matter how “small,” is against an infinite and eternal God, and is therefore worthy of an infinite and eternal penalty. Further, and probably most important, there is no sin to great enough for God to forgive.
Dec 25, 2013 12:46pm
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isadore

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Dec 25, 2013 1:33 PM
Con_Alma;1557388 wrote:How about it indeed.

Those who teach will be judged more strictly. More critical evaluation, once determined as sinful, doesn't equate to greater damnation.

Condemnation or eternally being without God is the greatest negative result poured upon the soul. Having more scrutiny in what may or may not be a sin doesn't result in any greater penalty.

At the same time, in regard to both eternal consequences and salvation, all sins are the same. Every sin will lead to eternal condemnation Romans 6:23. All sin, no matter how “small,” is against an infinite and eternal God, and is therefore worthy of an infinite and eternal penalty. Further, and probably most important, there is no sin to great enough for God to forgive.
Of course there are variations of sin for example
Mortal v Venial Sin
And a Purgatory for those who have committed non mortal sins.
Dec 25, 2013 1:33pm
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Dec 25, 2013 2:01 PM
Variation of sin has never been my contention but rather that all separate us *from God and nothing more matters.

The notion of purgatory is a catholic teaching of a process of making oneself pure and sanctifying the being with shame and punishment I think... It doesn't seem to be widely accepted outside of the catholic church based on it being an interpretative response and not directly addressed Biblical as seen by most Christians.

These comments all lend to my point that as man in Gods eyes we are no better than Mr. Robertson and certainly no worse. Being born into sin makes us more like his than he more like the good you claimed to hold over him.
Dec 25, 2013 2:01pm
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Dec 25, 2013 2:44 PM
Con_Alma;1557398 wrote:Variation of sin has never been my contention but rather that all separate us *from God and nothing more matters.

The notion of purgatory is a catholic teaching of a process of making oneself pure and sanctifying the being with shame and punishment I think... It doesn't seem to be widely accepted outside of the catholic church based on it being an interpretative response and not directly addressed Biblical as seen by most Christians.

These comments all lend to my point that as man in Gods eyes we are no better than Mr. Robertson and certainly no worse. Being born into sin makes us more like his than he more like the good you claimed to hold over him.
Gosh a ruddies that shows a certain amount of arrogance to be so dismissive of the Catholic Church. The church of a large majority of Christians in the world and the largest Christian Church in America. But you discount their teaching. It does differentiate among sinners.
Dec 25, 2013 2:44pm
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Dec 25, 2013 2:57 PM
isadore;1557406 wrote:Gosh a ruddies that shows a certain amount of arrogance to be so dismissive of the Catholic Church. The church of a large majority of Christians in the world and the largest Christian Church in America. But you discount their teaching. It does differentiate among sinners.
Being dismissive of Catholic teachings is the premise of being a protestant. One could say the same about Catholicism being the only true interpretation of Christianity while being dismissive of the entire protestant movement.

It's arrogant if you want it to be and it fits your view. Catholic I am not nor will I ever be. Your goodness and you sin is no greater than Mr. Robertson's. It's no greater than mine nor is mine any greater than yours.
Dec 25, 2013 2:57pm
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Dec 25, 2013 3:35 PM
Con_Alma;1557408 wrote:Being dismissive of Catholic teachings is the premise of being a protestant. One could say the same about Catholicism being the only true interpretation of Christianity while being dismissive of the entire protestant movement.

It's arrogant if you want it to be and it fits your view. Catholic I am not nor will I ever be. Your goodness and you sin is no greater than Mr. Robertson's. It's no greater than mine nor is mine any greater than yours.
gosh you are so hateful toward the Catholic Church "nor will I ever be." How narrowed minded of you. But of course all your statements are your opinion. And based on a minority view of the world's Christians. But that's ok. and Phil is still a hateful homophobic racist.
Dec 25, 2013 3:35pm
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Dec 25, 2013 3:55 PM
Catholics are the worst
Dec 25, 2013 3:55pm
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Dec 25, 2013 4:19 PM
isadore;1557411 wrote:gosh you are so hateful toward the Catholic Church "nor will I ever be." How narrowed minded of you. But of course all your statements are your opinion. And based on a minority view of the world's Christians. But that's ok. and Phil is still a hateful homophobic racist.

To subscribe to a doctrine that is not Catholicism and deciding to not move towards Catholicism does not constitute hate any more than someone choosing to not move towards being a protestant is hateful. It takes more than holding a difference to truly have hate. I would gladly stand arm in arm with catholics most anytime I might have a chance.

Mr. Robertson admittance of sins and answering questions about his beliefs are no greater or worse than the thoughts words and actions you and I perform on a daily daily basis.
Dec 25, 2013 4:19pm