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Dec 13, 2013 9:24 PM
^^Good.
Dec 13, 2013 9:24pm
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Dec 13, 2013 10:00 PM
Believe what you want Tresselites...those of us who can actually think for themselves know exactly what went down and when it went down and what is still going down with this fraud.
Dec 13, 2013 10:00pm
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Dec 13, 2013 10:08 PM
Dr Winston O'Boogie;1553051 wrote:Show a referecne to Tressel being a "founder" of Promise Keepers. Not that it woudl change my opinion of him, but I don't buy your claim..
Just google Tressel & Promise Keepers dumbass and see for yourself want a loon this guy is. But then again you're probably a Bible Beater that thinks that kinda shit is great.
Dec 13, 2013 10:08pm
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Dec 13, 2013 11:54 PM
Shut the fuck up already.
Dec 13, 2013 11:54pm
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Dec 14, 2013 2:15 AM
Tiernan;1553113 wrote:Just google Tressel & Promise Keepers dumbass and see for yourself want a loon this guy is. But then again you're probably a Bible Beater that thinks that kinda shit is great.
Googled it. Bill McCartney was the founder of Promise Keepers, not Jim Tressel. Not to mention your definition of the Promise Keepers group is wildly inaccurate.
Dec 14, 2013 2:15am
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Dec 14, 2013 7:42 AM
vball10set;1553071 wrote:He's not. Tearnan just throws shit against the wall hoping some of it will stick.

Tiernan;1553113 wrote:Just google Tressel & Promise Keepers dumbass and see for yourself want a loon this guy is. But then again you're probably a Bible Beater that thinks that kinda shit is great.
se-alum;1553171 wrote:Googled it. Bill McCartney was the founder of Promise Keepers, not Jim Tressel. Not to mention your definition of the Promise Keepers group is wildly inaccurate.
I rest my case.
Dec 14, 2013 7:42am
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Dec 14, 2013 9:28 AM
Never argue facts & science with snake handling fundamentalists...you are "believers" ain't ya?
Dec 14, 2013 9:28am
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Dec 14, 2013 6:12 PM
Tiernan;1553200 wrote:Never argue facts & science with snake handling fundamentalists...you are "believers" ain't ya?
I missed Tressel handling snakes...

Tressel is a good guy. He's not perfect by any means. But in this world, I'd say he's a decent man - and that's pretty good. I saw a news piece on Clarett a few months ago and was glad to see he's moving his life in the right direction. I'm looking forward to seeing this show.
Dec 14, 2013 6:12pm
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Dec 14, 2013 9:46 PM
Prett well done show so far
Dec 14, 2013 9:46pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:04 PM
Boy they're really making OSU look bad, absolutely killing Geiger. Really saying MoC and Tressel got a raw deal from the big wigs
Dec 14, 2013 10:04pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:05 PM
Classyposter58;1553457 wrote:Boy they're really making OSU look bad, absolutely killing Geiger. Really saying MoC and Tressel got a raw deal from the big wigs
Geiger was an absolute **** when it came to anything like this. People think that Gene Smith is bumbling, but Geiger was as arrogant as can be.
Dec 14, 2013 10:05pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:12 PM
Was Geiger even asked to be interviewed? His reputation is now ruined based off of this documentary. I mean, how many Andy Geiger documentaries are there out there?? He's not even able to defend himself here.


Wow!! It's Jesse Jackson!!!
Dec 14, 2013 10:12pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:17 PM
ou1980;1553463 wrote:Was Geiger even asked to be interviewed? His reputation is now ruined based off of this documentary. I mean, how many Andy Geiger documentaries are there out there?? He's not even able to defend himself here.


Wow!! It's Jesse Jackson!!!
His reputation was ruined when he was forced to retire. And when he confessed that he knew all kinds of violations were happening.
Dec 14, 2013 10:17pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:18 PM
ou1980;1553463 wrote:Was Geiger even asked to be interviewed? His reputation is now ruined based off of this documentary. I mean, how many Andy Geiger documentaries are there out there?? He's not even able to defend himself here.


Wow!! It's Jesse Jackson!!!
Geiger was asked if he wanted to be a part of it and declined.
Dec 14, 2013 10:18pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:20 PM
Terry_Tate;1553468 wrote:Geiger was asked if he wanted to be a part of it and declined.
Want he the only non-nfl person to decline?
Dec 14, 2013 10:20pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:32 PM
LJ;1553469 wrote:Want he the only non-nfl person to decline?
I didn't see that anywhere, but wouldn't surprise me.

And I honestly forget how good Clarett was until I watch his highlights. He was unreal for a freshman running back.
Dec 14, 2013 10:32pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:39 PM
These voice over are awful.

Tim May is loling on twitter on the voiceovers they did of him in the osu press conference scenes
Dec 14, 2013 10:39pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:54 PM
I must say watching this, it's a travesty how Clarett was treated. Now, he's not a saint by any means, but the way he was railroaded is unmatched in another scenario I can ever remember when it comes to a college player. I mean look at high level D-1 sports today and how much trouble there is, and how many chances players get.
Dec 14, 2013 10:54pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:57 PM
Azubuike24;1553486 wrote:I must say watching this, it's a travesty how Clarett was treated. Now, he's not a saint by any means, but the way he was railroaded is unmatched in another scenario I can ever remember when it comes to a college player. I mean look at high level D-1 sports today and how much trouble there is, and how many chances players get.
Yep. He challenged Geiger about the assistance program issue at the Fiesta bowl and Geiger tool the chance with the car thing to show who is boss.
Dec 14, 2013 10:57pm
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Dec 14, 2013 10:59 PM
LJ;1553488 wrote:Yep. He challenged Geiger about the assistance program issue at the Fiesta bowl and Geiger tool the chance with the car thing to show who is boss.
In the end, Geiger, Smith, Tressel and Clarett all lost...

Even better though, this brings back the memories of the whole challenging the NFL thing. What a circus that was.
Dec 14, 2013 10:59pm
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Dec 14, 2013 11:00 PM
I am watching this about an hour behind but man they killed Andy Geiger. Hard to say it was without good reason too.
Dec 14, 2013 11:00pm
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Dec 14, 2013 11:02 PM
Terry_Tate;1553491 wrote:I am watching this about an hour behind but man they killed Andy Geiger. Hard to say it was without good reason too.
Pay close attention to with just a few minutes left it is Tressel speaking to a crowd. They really used his comments to slam Geiger.
Dec 14, 2013 11:02pm
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Dec 14, 2013 11:04 PM
LJ;1553492 wrote:Pay close attention to with just a few minutes left it is Tressel speaking to a crowd. They really used his comments to slam Geiger.
Must have been not paying attention what did tress say?
Dec 14, 2013 11:04pm
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Dec 14, 2013 11:06 PM
ou1980;1553493 wrote:Must have been not paying attention what did tress say?
He was talking about how people around you just want to throw someone away and that is the worst mistake you can make.
Dec 14, 2013 11:06pm
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Dec 14, 2013 11:11 PM
I thought is was fair and showed Clarett as real, vulnerable and worthy of being respected for facing demons and coming out on top as a caring and productive human being.
Dec 14, 2013 11:11pm