2014 Ohio State Football Discussion

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gerb131
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Sep 28, 2014 10:29pm
Maryland ain't bad.
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Classyposter58
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Sep 28, 2014 11:06pm
lhslep134;1658441 wrote:Braxton is a significantly better runner and has more (and very valuable) experience. He's not a better passer and he's not necessarily a better QB. Although I've made it known how much I hate QBs who can't throw accurately (Pryor and Miller among them).
He had a 64% completion?
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lhslep134
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Sep 29, 2014 12:16am
Classyposter58;1658471 wrote:He had a 64% completion?
Sigh. Cluelessposter strikes again. Re-watch the games. He's not accurate.
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Tiernan
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Sep 29, 2014 7:39am
I can count on one hand the number of absolute "must have" 3rd downs Miller ever completed in games that weren't blow outs. When he faced legit competition he was a very average QB. Barrett looks better throwing the ball and will give us better opportunity against tougher opponents.
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Sep 29, 2014 7:46am
Classyposter58;1658471 wrote:He had a 64% completion?
What was weedens completion % in college? Yeah...

Completion % in college is the most useless stat you can throw out there.
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Sep 29, 2014 8:23am
gerb131;1658454 wrote:Maryland ain't bad.
3rd best in the Big Ten East right now I would say.
They also have probably the 2nd best offense OSU has seen this year, behind Cincy. The worst offensive performance was 24 points in the rain at USF. Over 34 each other time. And, they hung with WVU the whole game.
So, I expect the pass defense to get gashed some more.
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Tiernan
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Sep 29, 2014 10:40am
I have MD friends who are crowing the Terps are gonna take the B1G first time out. They never sell out and the place is SRO for the first time in years this Sat. Urbie must get a W to stay relevent.
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Sep 29, 2014 11:26am
Tiernan;1658563 wrote:I have MD friends who are crowing the Terps are gonna take the B1G first time out. They never sell out and the place is SRO for the first time in years this Sat. Urbie must get a W to stay relevent.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:10pm
Tiernan;1658563 wrote:I have MD friends who are crowing the Terps are gonna take the B1G first time out. They never sell out and the place is SRO for the first time in years this Sat. Urbie must get a W to stay relevent.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:20pm
Tiernan;1658563 wrote:I have MD friends who are crowing the Terps are gonna take the B1G first time out. They never sell out and the place is SRO for the first time in years this Sat. Urbie must get a W to stay relevent.
Come on man. No one in the area predicted that.
Hell, most fans and alum said before the season they would be happy with 6-6 given the schedule.

On a different note, Edsall said he won't go into the status of C.J. Brown until gameday, so OSU will have to plan for both QB styles.
Smart move.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bal-terps-cj-brown-will-be-gametime-decision-20140928,0,7905797.story
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Sep 29, 2014 1:01pm
Ohio State will beat UMD so bad that UMD will consider closing its football program next year forever.
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centralbucksfan
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Sep 29, 2014 4:38pm
ccrunner609;1658388 wrote:they wont because there is gonna a qb controversy. If JT runs the table this year with games like that.....Miller wont see the field next year,
Please. This has come up before and its a joke. I seriously like how JT is playing. Kid is going to be really good. But its like Guiton last year, its against teams who had/have piss poor defenses.
On top of that, Meyer cleared the air on this very subjext just today. Said that "Braxton Miller is our quarterback".

http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Article/Meyer-Braxton-Miller-is-our-quarterback-31590338

People can think what they want. But I have to scratch my head when some think JT will be the QB even if Miller is 100%. Do some of you have any idea how good Miller is, or not? The kid is one of the best player in the country, period. He is/was the difference between this team challenging for a national title, and now not. With what OSU has coming back next year, IF, and yes, a big IF, Miller is healthy...this team is/will be loaded.
Let it rest.
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HelloAgain
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Sep 29, 2014 5:36pm
The thing is, everyone around the football program knows Miller's career as a QB is over. So it's easy for Meyer to say that. JT will be the QB next year and Miller will be used in a hybrid role.
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Tiernan
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Sep 29, 2014 7:12pm
Miller will be at OR next year. You heard it here first.
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centralbucksfan
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Sep 29, 2014 7:40pm
HelloAgain;1658713 wrote:The thing is, everyone around the football program knows Miller's career as a QB is over. So it's easy for Meyer to say that. JT will be the QB next year and Miller will be used in a hybrid role.
They do? And you know this for a fact? lol IT would have been EASY for Meyer to say this..."we are hear to talk about this years team, not next year". In fact, he didn't. That would have been the easy thing, easy way out.
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HelloAgain
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Sep 29, 2014 8:17pm
centralbucksfan;1658738 wrote:They do? And you know this for a fact?
Yes.

Meyer isn't going to say anything other than glowing positives about Braxton and his future because, despite his public statements, there is a small chance he enters the draft when the time comes. It all depends where he hears he'll be drafted.

But the team and Braxton know the shoulder is done. He'll be able to throw, and even if it's with near the same force as before, his shoulder won't be able to accommodate the same volume. Basically, he can't be an every down starting QB. What he can be is a hell of a weapon as a hybrid that runs and maybe throws a handful of times each game. That is the current plan going forward barring word a team will take a flyer on him in the first few rounds of the draft.
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Sep 29, 2014 8:24pm
HelloAgain;1658750 wrote:Yes.

Meyer isn't going to say anything other than glowing positives about Braxton and his future because, despite his public statements, there is a small chance he enters the draft when the time comes. It all depends where he hears he'll be drafted.

But the team and Braxton know the shoulder is done. He'll be able to throw, and even if it's with near the same force as before, his shoulder won't be able to accommodate the same volume. Basically, he can't be an every down starting QB. What he can be is a hell of a weapon as a hybrid that runs and maybe throws a handful of times each game. That is the current plan going forward barring word a team will take a flyer on him in the first few rounds of the draft.
You were around long enough to remember cbf and his "ways" weren't you?
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Sep 29, 2014 8:39pm
HelloAgain;1658713 wrote:The thing is, everyone around the football program knows Miller's career as a QB is over. So it's easy for Meyer to say that. JT will be the QB next year and Miller will be used in a hybrid role.
Think we were on the same page when this first happened that that was a real possibility and may be best for Braxton's NFL chances, and IMO, may just be best for Ohio State next year. They have some playmakers now, but adding a dynamic player like Braxton next year would be unreal. Barrett is still raw but I think with more practice and playing time he's going to be extremely good.
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Tiernan
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Sep 29, 2014 9:20pm
No NFL with half a brain (so the Clowns & Jets are a possibility...) would even consider wasting a draft pick on Miller even in the late rounds. He will transfer to a running QB offense school for his 5th Year and most likely be re-injured by mid season. It's unfortunate but it's reality.
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Sep 29, 2014 9:39pm
ccrunner609;1658792 wrote:sais the guy that voted for barack because of his foreign policy experience.....GRFOH
My guy won, yours didn't and Braxton was better than Kenny G.
You have no legs to stand on.
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Sep 29, 2014 9:44pm
Can we wait till league play to make our judgement with JT?
Kid hasn't played a Big Ten game yet, and has really never been on the road.

Hell of an assumption you all are making.
JT is great so far, but I need to see more before I can anoint him the 2nd coming.

And, let's really see how they do against Maryland, which will be the 2nd best defense, behind VT, he will have seen this year.

Maryland's Dline straight up shut down Indiana's run game. Coleman was under a 100 yards until the game was in hand.
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centralbucksfan
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Sep 30, 2014 7:42am
SportsAndLady;1658754 wrote:You were around long enough to remember cbf and his "ways" weren't you?
Can you ever any substance to anything except your childish bullshit? BTW, how did you feel about Craft? Didn't you make some bet/comment if he were to make an NBA team/roster you would disappear or something? I may have to look that up. haha
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centralbucksfan
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Sep 30, 2014 7:44am
HelloAgain;1658750 wrote:Yes.

Meyer isn't going to say anything other than glowing positives about Braxton and his future because, despite his public statements, there is a small chance he enters the draft when the time comes. It all depends where he hears he'll be drafted.

But the team and Braxton know the shoulder is done. He'll be able to throw, and even if it's with near the same force as before, his shoulder won't be able to accommodate the same volume. Basically, he can't be an every down starting QB. What he can be is a hell of a weapon as a hybrid that runs and maybe throws a handful of times each game. That is the current plan going forward barring word a team will take a flyer on him in the first few rounds of the draft.
Wow, so you are in tight with Dr. Andrews huh? And you know this even prior to the shoulder being able to heal? IS that you Dr. Andrews...or maybe God almighty?

BTW, please read. I said "IF" Miller were near 100%. And If that does happen, and as I said, a BIG IF, then Miller will be behind OSU center to start the season.
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Sep 30, 2014 9:04am
Miller wouldn't be able to transfer to Oregon without sitting out another year. He's not on pace to graduate this spring..
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wkfan
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Sep 30, 2014 11:26am
Midstate01;1658912 wrote:Miller wouldn't be able to transfer to Oregon without sitting out another year. He's not on pace to graduate this spring..
According to the interviews at the time of his injury, he is......

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/08/19/ohio-state-qb-braxton-miller-out-for-season-with-shoulder-injury/14283351/