Archive Carlos Hyde-Heisman

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vball10set

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Dec 10, 2013 7:33pm

vball10set;1551276 wrote:6 finalists invited and no Hyde (or Brax)....I won't be watching.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1551666 wrote:The fact that ONE of them (Miller / Hyde) didn't get invited is a travesty. How do you invite 6 finalists, and 1 of them isn't Hyde or Miller?! That's just mind-blowing to me.

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Pick6

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Dec 10, 2013 7:57pm

Scarlet_Buckeye;1551666 wrote:The fact that ONE of them (Miller / Hyde) didn't get invited is a travesty. How do you invite 6 finalists, and 1 of them isn't Hyde or Miller?! That's just mind-blowing to me.

maybe the fact that they missed like 3 games a piece had something to do with it. I think Hyde would have gotten the invite if he was injured and missed 3 rather than being suspended.

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WebFire

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Dec 10, 2013 9:17pm

Pick6;1551727 wrote:maybe the fact that they missed like 3 games a piece had something to do with it. I think Hyde would have gotten the invite if he was injured and missed 3 rather than being suspended.

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DeyDurkie5

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Dec 11, 2013 12:00am

If they would've featured him in the 4th against MSU, he would've been in the Heisman discussion easily.

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vball10set

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Dec 11, 2013 9:06am

WebFire;1551756 wrote:Thank you.

You're welcome.

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centralbucksfan

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Dec 11, 2013 11:22am

Scarlet_Buckeye;1551666 wrote:The fact that ONE of them (Miller / Hyde) didn't get invited is a travesty. How do you invite 6 finalists, and 1 of them isn't Hyde or Miller?! That's just mind-blowing to me.

Again, too many missed games by both that ended up hurting their numbers. Thats the reality of it.

Scarlet_Buckeye

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Dec 11, 2013 3:58pm

Pick6;1551727 wrote:maybe the fact that they missed like 3 games a piece had something to do with it. I think Hyde would have gotten the invite if he was injured and missed 3 rather than being suspended.

Hyde is still deserving of an invite, even tho he missed 3 games. his numbers were still good. If you don't want to 'invite' him due to the suspension, then why are you inviting Winston? Pretty much the same thing, no? Both were found to be 'innocent' of their alleged crimes.

And if you don't want to invite Hyde because of the 'suspension', then invite Miller. His numbers were just as good, and his 'missed time' was due to injury; not suspension.

Scarlet_Buckeye

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Dec 11, 2013 4:00pm

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DeyDurkie5;1551813 wrote:If they would've featured him in the 4th against MSU, he would've been in the Heisman discussion easily.

Scarlet_Buckeye

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Dec 11, 2013 4:01pm

centralbucksfan;1551959 wrote:Again, too many missed games by both that ended up hurting their numbers. Thats the reality of it.

Their numbers were still solid, and they led one of the premiere teams in the country. Now, if you want to argue they should have beat MSU if they wanted an invite, now that's a different discussion.

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WebFire

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Dec 11, 2013 4:29pm

Scarlet_Buckeye;1552192 wrote:Hyde is still deserving of an invite, even tho he missed 3 games. his numbers were still good. If you don't want to 'invite' him due to the suspension, then why are you inviting Winston? Pretty much the same thing, no? Both were found to be 'innocent' of their alleged crimes.

And if you don't want to invite Hyde because of the 'suspension', then invite Miller. His numbers were just as good, and his 'missed time' was due to injury; not suspension.

Bottom line, Winston didn't miss games. He has the numbers. The other 2 missed games, don't have the numbers. Hyde is arguable for numbers, but even then there are others you could argue for too.

dwccrew

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Dec 11, 2013 8:54pm

rrfan;1551508 wrote:Is Braxton coming back next year?

I don't see why he would go pro. He is clearly not ready to be an NFL QB.

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centralbucksfan

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Dec 12, 2013 2:04pm

Scarlet_Buckeye;1552195 wrote:Their numbers were still solid, and they led one of the premiere teams in the country. Now, if you want to argue they should have beat MSU if they wanted an invite, now that's a different discussion.

Solid numbers don't get you an invite to the Heisman. Especially when people think you have played no one on your schedule. When was last time someone got an invite to the Heisman after missing 3 games? Its too much to overcome. Hyde woulda been there IMO if he hadn't missed. Miller maybe.

Dr. KnOiTaLL

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Dec 12, 2013 2:17pm

dwccrew;1552305 wrote:I don't see why he would go pro. He is clearly not ready to be an NFL QB.

He's not going to be an NFL QB. At least not a good one. **See Troy Smith**

wildcats20

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Dec 12, 2013 2:33pm

Anyone who believes he is for sure staying might want to check out his comments with the Chicago Tribune today...very interesting.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/ct-spt-1213-silver-football-miller-20131213/

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centralbucksfan

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Dec 12, 2013 2:40pm

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1552571 wrote:He's not going to be an NFL QB. At least not a good one. **See Troy Smith**

Not sure why you are comparing him to Smith. At this stage of their careers, Miller is much better all around player. But you obviously know more thant he scouts do. See above article.

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centralbucksfan

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Dec 12, 2013 2:42pm

wildcats20;1552573 wrote:Anyone who believes he is for sure staying might want to check out his comments with the Chicago Tribune today...very interesting.

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#story/ct-spt-1213-silver-football-miller-20131213/

Interesting read. Little distrubing to be honest. But as that last scout said, he needs another year and if he comes out now, would probably be a 3/4 round selection. But I can also understand his concern about getting injured with a young inexperienced offensive line next year.

rrfan

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Dec 12, 2013 2:43pm

I could see it going either way. I do think he would benefit from another year and the list of QB's for this draft is going to be very long. It only takes one team to love him, but it is a big risk to get drafted late and never really get a chance and you are out of the league before you know what happened.