Con_Alma;1541493 wrote:I didn't say the social conservative had a chance but rather that they are battling with the Tea Partiers for power.

The tea partiers only espouse but one view of Mr. Paul It's his remaining views that kept him from being more popular in the party. They are significant enough for such ideas to require a 3rd party to get a Presidential nomination.

Let me guess.... Fighting Terrorists across the world

Con_Alma;1541486 wrote:I didn't think our federal government operated on a budget anymore. When's the last time we had one?

Paul and Johnson wouldn't have had the opportunity to slash any budget that wasn't submitted to them. How effective would such a President be in governing with his 3rd party ideology when the House is still mad up of Dems And Repubs?

It's going to take more than a Libertarian President to make significant changes.

You aren't going to solve 30 years of the Boomers ruining the economy with one election. Paul or Johnson would have been a great start though.

sleeper said about millennials:

Most of my generation is not old enough to be President or a Congressman.

Then he said :

You aren't going to solve 30 years of the Boomers ruining the economy with one election

as the average age of boomers today is 58...30 years ago they would have been 28!


Da fuq?


Is he talking out of both sides of his mouth...math skills deficient?:RpS_razz:

sleeper;1541482 wrote:lol. Delusional. Yeah everyone just goes to college just for the knowledge and the sex; not a job. Grow up.

no one is making you go to a school that will leave you 50k in debt.

pmoney25;1541497 wrote:Let me guess.... Fighting Terrorists across the world

...all of his ideas except for being taxed.

The libertarians aren't going to win over the Republican party.

sleeper;1541509 wrote:You aren't going to solve 30 years of the Boomers ruining the economy with one election. Paul or Johnson would have been a great start though.

I don't see that it would have done much if anything economically without giving in to the house.

HitsRus;1541514 wrote:Is he talking out of both sides of his mouth...

One of the finer traits of the Tattooed Whiner Generations.

The whiner entitled Xbox gens will never get off the couch long enough to go vote so its a moot point.

Glory Days;1541519 wrote:no one is making you go to a school that will leave you 50k in debt.

You're right. The better option is to go to a community college like my granpa did back in the 80's and get a job that way. Boomers are absolutely delusional about how the real world works and then sit here and talk about how millenials are stupid because they lack experience. LOL

HitsRus;1541514 wrote:sleeper said about millennials:



Then he said :


as the average age of boomers today is 58...30 years ago they would have been 28!


Da fuq?


Is he talking out of both sides of his mouth...math skills deficient?:RpS_razz:

The only difference is you are willing to blame those who are still in diapers for your trillions in debt. Enjoy your canned corn retirement! LOL

^^^Don't worry about me...I have a baby boomer financial advisor who figured out early that your generation would welsh on the social contract, so my retirement plan stands on it's own. I just wish you guys would quit voting for people whose policies threaten the value of my dollars.

I do hope your parents have planned the same....otherwise 'boomerang parents' may become a popular term in about 15 years. Have fun putting in the ramps for them...it's hell on the architecture,....if your smart you'll buy a handicap accessible house.

Incidentally, that pretty much was the norm before Social Security...children taking care of their elderly parents who could no longer work....so be careful what you wish for....

HitsRus;1541590 wrote: Incidentally, that pretty much was the norm before Social Security...children taking care of their elderly parents who could no longer work....so be careful what you wish for....

Ahhhh, yes, that wonderful aspect of a redistributionist society where it's my responsibility to take care of other people's children or parents. SS is really a different debate, but I question whether welfare and other benefits simply aren't too generous.

In all honesty, I'm not sure it was such a bad thing for generations to live under the same roof, or to move back in together when times were tough.

Incidentally, that pretty much was the norm before Social Security...children taking care of their elderly parents who could no longer work....so be careful what you wish for....

A small sacrifice in order to save the greatest country in the world from financial ruin.

pmoney25;1541390 wrote:Yea because Keynesian economics, housing bubble, globetrotting police war machine and big government departments were all created in the last 5 years. The establishment/neocon/social conservative boomer republicans are just as much to blame as Obama or the democrats.

There will be a Gen Y/ millennial libertarian takeover in the republican party in the next 10 years as more from this group get involved in politics. People who believe in small government for the economy and for their personal lives.

Yep. The most comical and least intelligent people are the ones who attempt to slap all the blame on one political party while attempting to pretend the other party is innocent. Both are essentially in bed with each other, playing a game to maintain their status of power, making that stance a logical farce. The only difference in additional debt depending on the president would be incremental and when numbers are reaching the trillions, an incremental improvement really doesn't mean much.

But please, go on and tell me how the problem has been caused solely by current voting trends. And please, tell me how the old guy who was too liberal to beat Bush for the nomination would have changed the country. Or the blueblood who was too sucky to beat out the old guy who was too liberal to beat Bush. Lol, there's something hilariously delusional about supporters of a party blaming the other party for all the country's problems when all their side has done is send forth the most unconvincing, uninspiring opponents possible (because nothing says WINNER quite like a guy who'd failed to get the nomination the last time out) and then cry like babies at the end result.

That's the sort of ineptitude that'll definitely straighten things out!

^^^all true.

But there's only one party that equates spending cuts with a war on [insert special interest group] and calls them financial terrorists.

^^^^agreed ... kind of like a guy blaming one generation for an entitlement started 80 years ago... LOL.

HitsRus;1541962 wrote:^^^^agreed ... kind of like a guy blaming one generation for an entitlement started 80 years ago... LOL.

Again, SS is a separate issue from the $17T in debt. And they've been talking SS reform for about 20 years, at least, and the voters keep shooting it down. So maybe don't get bent out of shape when you don't like the reforms future voters support. You had your chance.

Entitlement really isn't a good word, it's really a pari-mutuel insurance pool. When you understand how that works, then you'll understand what has to happen.

Finally caught up on this thread. TIL I'm a lazy POS.

Again, SS is a separate issue from the $17T in debt. And they've been talking SS reform for about 20 years,

Try 30,... at least the guys/gals that have forseen the problem have been talking about it,...and that problem is that money people count on for retirement can/will disappear with the stroke of a pen. (which is probably what will happen). But it has nothing to do with the boomers who pretty much were led to believe that the money would be there for them. You can blame the boomers all you want, but every in generation, there is a majority of people who just aren't that smart/educated/sophisticated to parse thru the government promise especially when all their leaders tell them every thing is okay. The 'system' was thrust upon us when we were 'young naive voters' just like the millenials today who vote for leaders that have sent the debt thru the roof with no end to the borrowing in sight.

...and yes.....the debt is a different issue...a much more worrisome issue, because the 'unfunded' liabilitites of SS disappear when your generation welshes on the government 'promise'...which you say must happen.... The debt is real money that owed to someone and must be repaid with interest....an amount that will approach a half a trillion a year. So you should be very concerned that young people are overwhelming voting 'progressive'.

Welsh on an unsustainable social contract; those damn kids in diapers!

Enjoy your $10 a month SS check LOL.

sleeper;1542795 wrote:Welsh on an unsustainable social contract; those damn kids in diapers!

Enjoy your $10 a month SS check LOL.

No, he'll get the full $100. It's just that a bottle of milk is going to cost $200

gut;1542963 wrote:No, he'll get the full $100. It's just that a bottle of milk is going to cost $200

That's the other side of the coin. Boomer want to eat their cake and have it to, but there's no cake.

sleeper;1542988 wrote:That's the other side of the coin. Boomer want to eat their cake and have it to, but there's no cake.

I think it's exactly how they are going to do it. Obama has already proposed switching to chain CPI. Shave 50-100bps off the inflation adjustments and in 20 years you've reduced the real benefit 15%. The boomer generation that couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on the past 30 years isn't going to be any the wiser.

gut;1543040 wrote:I think it's exactly how they are going to do it. Obama has already proposed switching to chain CPI. Shave 50-100bps off the inflation adjustments and in 20 years you've reduced the real benefit 15%. The boomer generation that couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on the past 30 years isn't going to be any the wiser.

Good. Voting for Obama was the first step in addressing SS long term then.

I made a gen Xer scramble for his life today in the crosswalk on Spring St just east of High in Cbus. He gave me the old 1 finger salute and yelled something...I honked and waved as I sped away laughing. He had the typical Goofy baggy ski cap, skinny jeans and shoulder man purse. He kinda did a little skip and stumble move when I almost got him.