robj55;1539387 wrote:That takes them out of what they want to do and forces them to play at your tempo, like you said, they want you to take the lay up. Marietta played like this a few years ago, not sure if they still do. If you limit their possessions then they get less shots, simple. Sure it would be fun to play in an uptempo style like that, something you would never forget.

If it's as easy to stop Grinnell's pace as you are implying, then why do all of their scores look like this...




Out of all of Grinnell's losses, the least amount of points the opposing team scored was 103. That's because Grinnell's press dictated the pace, they didn't make their threes and the opponent won.

This isn't rocket science. It's the same as if a team wants to slow it down. You could literally run the clock and stall, especially at the HS level. Even if you got pressed, you could keep the score from getting to these levels.

However, like Rec (and others) say, if you step on the floor with them and know you can beat them, why not play this style?

The debate isn't really why and how they continually create this type of game, but instead about why they are so consistently average at it. It's a chicken and egg. If you know you have average talent, you might try this. If you have awful talent, you don't, and if you have great talent, you don't but could if you had to.

Azubuike24;1539529 wrote:However, like Rec (and others) say, if you step on the floor with them and know you can beat them, why not play this style?.

Yep. If you have a team that you think can beat Grinnell -- and, judging by their game footage, Grinnell isn't full of Kobes; they're primarily great high school chuckers -- then you are going to try and take advantage of their four-man press that openly gives up layups with great frequency. I think some people here are also not realizing that Grinnell's coach designates certain players on the team as his "primary shooters," and forbids those players from crossing half-court so that they can stay back on offense and cherry pick for threes. That's what Jack Taylor was doing a majority of that record-setting game.

What opposing team isn't going to play Grinnell's pace for a trade-off of playing five-on-four most of the game? While Grinnell is more concerned with cherry picking and breaking individual scoring records, the other team is going to beat their ass.

reclegend22;1539523 wrote:If it's as easy to stop Grinnell's pace as you are implying, then why do all of their scores look like this...




Out of all of Grinnell's losses, the least amount of points the opposing team scored was 103. That's because Grinnell's press dictated the pace, they didn't make their threes and the opponent won.

I never said it was easy, but it's possible. They don't defend so you can get a layup or easy look 30 seconds into the shot clock instead of 5 seconds in.

After scoring 109 points and going 24-of-48 from three-point land against a nursery school on Sunday, Grinnell's Jack Taylor went for 3 last night on 0-for-3 shooting from beyond the arc.

Evidently, their opponent read this thread and decided enough was enough. Grinnell still won, but the opposing team triple teamed Taylor the whole game and decided to let the other four players beat them. How bad are Grinnell's other four players to only win by nine while playing four-on-two for 40 minutes?