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Nov 18, 2013 4:33 PM
queencitybuckeye;1538147 wrote:If my home is damaged to the point where it's uninhabitable, looting is not exactly at the top of my list of problems. WTF would I be trying to protect?
Yourself and your family as you start to put pieces of what is yours back together ... so maybe you can demostrate a set.
Nov 18, 2013 4:33pm
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Nov 18, 2013 4:42 PM
So far, and EF-2 and EF-1 confirmed in Wood County. EF-2 is the one that hit Oregon, the EF-1 was in Jerry City.
Nov 18, 2013 4:42pm
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Nov 18, 2013 4:44 PM
The looters stole my cable and Internet. Give it back!!!
Nov 18, 2013 4:44pm
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Nov 18, 2013 7:50 PM
Belly35;1538174 wrote:
Call me crazy but when push comes to shove …. I’ll take crazy
You took crazy, ran with it, and now own it.
Nov 18, 2013 7:50pm
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Nov 18, 2013 9:58 PM
Belly35;1538127 wrote:Get your head out of your ass and open your eye to reality ...
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Nov 18, 2013 9:58pm
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Nov 19, 2013 12:05 AM
Officially 5 twisters in NW Ohio. An EF2(120-130 mph) that went through Perrysburg to Oregon, and another that went through Cloverdale. Then there were 3 EF1 tornadoes, one in Jerry City clocked at 110 mph, one in Van Wert clocked at 100 and finally one east of Elmore at 95 mph
Nov 19, 2013 12:05am
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Nov 19, 2013 12:10 AM
Belly35;1537890 wrote:How prepared where some of you if lets say the area where you live was heavily damage, all utilities out, some looting began and order would not be restored for a week?

The wife and I took some of our valuables, money, jewelry and weapons / ammo we had upstairs to the basement just in case of heavily home damage from the winds. Things like food, water, batteries, candles additional blankets, clothing was already in the basement storage area.
Haha it's a tornado, not Hurricane Katrina. Good lord if your town gets destroyed, go to the next one. Nobody is gonna rob you
Nov 19, 2013 12:10am
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Nov 19, 2013 6:09 AM
Classyposter58;1538555 wrote:Officially 5 twisters in NW Ohio. An EF2(120-130 mph) that went through Perrysburg to Oregon, and another that went through Cloverdale. Then there were 3 EF1 tornadoes, one in Jerry City clocked at 110 mph, one in Van Wert clocked at 100 and finally one east of Elmore at 95 mph
Hope my old house in Perrysburg is Ok
Nov 19, 2013 6:09am
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Nov 19, 2013 6:37 AM
Classyposter58;1538557 wrote:Haha it's a tornado, not Hurricane Katrina. Good lord if your town gets destroyed, go to the next one. Nobody is gonna rob you


What magic road will you be taking that isn't covered, distroyed or flooded, full of hundreds of others just like you going where? How many rooms are there in the next town? When does cost of staying in the next town run out....

Really no looting happens, nobody is robbed, property is not stripped and valuables not scavenge by outsiders... when the weather changes in the Toledo area and gets colder the crime rate jumps .07 percent right after the last tomato is picked.

Stay by your property, protecting yourself and being prepared is just part of the equation, protecting yourself, being self sufficient to be able to pick up the piece of memorabilia for your home, establishing hope to your family that not all is lost and this is still home, to be rebuilt has value to the heart and soul of the family that you are a provider.
Nov 19, 2013 6:37am
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Nov 19, 2013 6:58 AM
I'll type slowly this time as you clearly don't read fast. If your home is destroyed, there's nothing to be looted, you'd just be shooting people for the fun of it.
Nov 19, 2013 6:58am
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Nov 19, 2013 7:18 AM
queencitybuckeye;1538586 wrote:I'll type slowly this time as you clearly don't read fast. If your home is destroyed, there's nothing to be looted, you'd just be shooting people for the fun of it.
So you quite and leave that simple ....

Stay by your property, protecting yourself and being prepared is just part of the equation, protecting your family, being self sufficient to be able to pick up the piece of memorabilia for your home, establishing hope to your family that not all is lost and this is still home, to be rebuilt has value to the heart and soul of the family that you are a provider band all will be OK.


Me being prepared help the first responder help someone else who I haven't shot yet...
Nov 19, 2013 7:18am
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Nov 19, 2013 7:32 AM
Nov 19, 2013 7:32am
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Nov 19, 2013 7:57 AM
queencitybuckeye;1538586 wrote:I'll type slowly this time as you clearly don't read fast. If your home is destroyed, there's nothing to be looted, you'd just be shooting people for the fun of it.
If it's any consolation, I get what you're saying.
On the other hand, I have no idea what Belly is trying to say. My best guess is he's envisioning a magical disaster that's destroyed everything around for miles (tornados typically leave a much smaller path of destruction, as I think Webfire pointed out). We apparently live in a metropolis where there's only a few ways out of town, most of which have been destroyed. Now the escaping population has only one route, and who knows if the adjacent area can handle all of us. You don't have any family in the area that can help, just hotels that can only accommodate so many.
Your best bet is to stay by your house, whether it be missing a window or a roof, and wait for the tiny, tiny chance that someone in small-town Ohio is going to steal from you. There's numerous flaws in all of this, but I guess my biggest question is if all the roads to get out of town are destroyed, how are people supposedly going to come rob me?
Nov 19, 2013 7:57am
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Nov 19, 2013 8:30 AM
Belly35;1538585 wrote:What magic road will you be taking that isn't covered, distroyed or flooded, full of hundreds of others just like you going where? How many rooms are there in the next town? When does cost of staying in the next town run out....

Really no looting happens, nobody is robbed, property is not stripped and valuables not scavenge by outsiders... when the weather changes in the Toledo area and gets colder the crime rate jumps .07 percent right after the last tomato is picked.

Stay by your property, protecting yourself and being prepared is just part of the equation, protecting yourself, being self sufficient to be able to pick up the piece of memorabilia for your home, establishing hope to your family that not all is lost and this is still home, to be rebuilt has value to the heart and soul of the family that you are a provider.
You've been watching too many prepper shows.
Nov 19, 2013 8:30am
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Nov 19, 2013 9:28 AM
It does not matter the scale of the devastation event looting, stealing and crime against others weaken by the disaster will happen. The fact that I prepare for even a minor event put me and my family in a better position for the unexpected and future of my family well being. The fact I have weapons is a preventative measure that my family will not be a victim and I may be able to prevent others from being victims. Seem it is all about you and just you saving your ass.
You choose to have a plan of no plan (all about me) and unprepared …. Good luck

Article and reach:

Disaster Myth or Reality: Developing a Criminology of Disaster

Looting After a Disaster: A Myth or Reality?
Nov 19, 2013 9:28am
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Nov 19, 2013 9:29 AM
Belly... you're not going to live forever, you know.
Nov 19, 2013 9:29am
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Nov 19, 2013 9:42 AM
Belly35;1538647 wrote:It does not matter the scale of the devastation event looting, stealing and crime against others weaken by the disaster will happen. The fact that I prepare for even a minor event put me and my family in a better position for the unexpected and future of my family well being. The fact I have weapons is a preventative measure that my family will not be a victim and I may be able to prevent others from being victims. Seem it is all about you and just you saving your ass.
You choose to have a plan of no plan (all about me) and unprepared …. Good luck

Article and reach:

Disaster Myth or Reality: Developing a Criminology of Disaster

Looting After a Disaster: A Myth or Reality?
I have no concern whatsoever of looting in my town, or any neighboring town, if hit by a tornado. Maybe you don't live in a very nice place belly? My town would be concerned about helping each other. I would be out helping my fellow townsmen. I wouldn't be bunkered down in my house waiting for looters.

There are really 2 scenarios here:

1. House sustains minor/no damage, in which case I make temporary repairs to secure the house (mostly to keep weather out, not so much looters), and then go help others in need.

2. House is heavily damaged and not suitable to occupy. I would gather valuable items (monetary or personal) and place them in my car (if available), get my family to safe shelter (a relative's house), then return to help others. You think roads would be blocked? Sure, they would. And the first thing people do (besides attend to injured) is clear the roads for emergency and repair crews. It doesn't take long to have a way out. This is rarely an issue with tornadoes, as the path is usually no more than a couple hundreds yards. The whole city doesn't become blocked.

Now, my scenarios don't take into account that I am on my local fire department, so my plans would actually be a little different, considering my family was safe and unharmed. My first actions would be with the fire department, concerned with life safety and possible rescues.

So given the above, don't even try to tell me it's all about me. I'm not the one standing at my front door with an AR-15 making sure no one loots me.
Nov 19, 2013 9:42am
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Nov 19, 2013 9:45 AM
This thread is gold, Jerry.

Nov 19, 2013 9:45am
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Nov 19, 2013 9:50 AM
I think I see some shingles blown off of Belly's roof in the background.

Nov 19, 2013 9:50am
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Nov 19, 2013 10:35 AM
Belly has George Zimmerman posters in his basement.
Nov 19, 2013 10:35am
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Nov 19, 2013 10:38 AM
WebFire;1537916 wrote:Considering that even a devastating tornado is 1 mile or less wide, I would go stay with a family member or friend, and there would be plenty of stores/food places open. Do you really think people camp out in their basement after the house is gone?
WebFire;1538659 wrote:Now, my scenarios don't take into account that I am on my local fire department, so my plans would actually be a little different, considering my family was safe and unharmed. My first actions would be with the fire department, concerned with life safety and possible rescues.

So given the above, don't even try to tell me it's all about me. I'm not the one standing at my front door with an AR-15 making sure no one loots me.

Door number one or door number two .... Which one are you?
Nov 19, 2013 10:38am
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Nov 19, 2013 10:48 AM
Belly35;1538741 wrote:Door number one or door number two .... Which one are you?
My answers are based on me being a normal citizen of my town. The only thing that would possibly change is I may go into help mode quicker because I am a first responder. But even so, my family's safety would come first.

None of my answers change.
Nov 19, 2013 10:48am
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Nov 19, 2013 1:47 PM
Picture of the Washington, IL tornado path. I mean seriously, look at all the roads destroyed around the path. No getting in or out. Not sure how to make it to the next town to find a hotel. Grab yer guns, yall!

Nov 19, 2013 1:47pm
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Nov 19, 2013 1:58 PM
WebFire;1538752 wrote:My answers are based on me being a normal citizen of my town. The only thing that would possibly change is I may go into help mode quicker because I am a first responder. But even so, my family's safety would come first.

None of my answers change.
My up most respect to you for being and committing to First responder.
Many years ago in Perrysburg I volunteered with the Police and Fire dept. ....

Those experiences along with my military background is why I hold firm to being prepared, secure the area, causes and be as self-reliant as possible.

question in your experiences .... Do you want the population to be better prepare for disaster then many are presently?
Nov 19, 2013 1:58pm
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Nov 19, 2013 2:01 PM
Belly35;1537890 wrote:How prepared where some of you if lets say the area where you live was heavily damage, all utilities out, some looting began and order would not be restored for a week?

The wife and I took some of our valuables, money, jewelry and weapons / ammo we had upstairs to the basement just in case of heavily home damage from the winds. Things like food, water, batteries, candles additional blankets, clothing was already in the basement storage area.
If I lived with that sense of paranoia, I'd probably look to move somewhere either completely isolated from humanity or where no bad weather ever really happens.

Because in Ohio, moving a bunch of shit down to the basement every single time there's a hint of a possible bad storm means you'd be spending more time moving stuff into and out of the basement than doing anything else.
Nov 19, 2013 2:01pm