Automatik;1535654 wrote:I'm not sure Miller has a future in the NFL, but I'll be pulling for him. He still has a year to get better, so we shall see.

lhslep134;1535484 wrote:Sounds like you haven't watch Johnny Football at this all year then. His accuracy has been great, at the very worst it's very close to Russell's during his JR year @ NCSU and his SR year @ Wisco. He's suffered the past 2 or 3 weeks because of his injuries. Before them, he was pretty spectacular with the delivery and ball placement of his throws.

I'm not advocating him to the Browns though, because of his recklessness. If he can cut down on that, I'm sold.

Automatik;1535663 wrote:He's greatly improved in his ability to read a D and go through progressions. I'm actually surprised in how far he's come in that regards.

I'm just not sure if he can handle the physical nature of the NFL. Will he be able to handle the hits?

robj55;1535667 wrote:He is accurate but gets bailed out a lot by Mike Evans, I've seen him make some horrible reads and throws only to have them completed.

robj55;1535667 wrote:He is accurate but gets bailed out a lot by Mike Evans

lhslep134;1535786 wrote:Those aren't mutually exclusive dude. He can still be extremely accurate and get bailed out.

Ever watch Stafford with Calvin? When you have a stud who can catch in traffic, you're much more tempted to just throw it up and let them do their thing. That's the case with Manziel/Evans.

Heretic;1535447 wrote:Considering that players are a lot larger and stronger and faster than they were in the 70s, I'm not sure what the Tarkenton reference was supposed to accomplish. A lot of great players from that era who would be dismal flops today if they were just dropped into the NFL without access to today's training/weight-lifting/etc. techniques.

SportsAndLady;1535303 wrote:Shut up footwedge

se-alum;1535330 wrote:Intelligence typically wins out in the NFL over athletic ability. I don't trust Manziel to be able to read defenses and survive being hit by NFL defenses.

robj55;1535324 wrote:Russell Wilson is more accurate and has way better intangibles. Wilson has character off the charts and Manziel is getting thrown out of Manning camp for being hungover, his character flaws are enough to stray away from him. Vick can't stay healthy and neither will Manziel be able to. He is nicked up almost every game in college. Also, some of the plays he makes are amazing but also extremely lucky.

believer;1535386 wrote:Manziel will get drafted...and fade into obscurity as he rides the bench as a back-up for a real NFL QB.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1535443 wrote:IMO, there's no QBs worth drafting this year. To me, they ALL have major flaws.

Footwedge;1535851 wrote:All of them have flaws...except Johhny football.

Footwedge;1535847 wrote:Yeah he sure looked dumb as hell as he hung 42 points on Alabama this year didn't he? Lame.

se-alum;1535915 wrote: they can't hack it in the league because they've never had to read a defense past one or two reads.

se-alum;1535659 wrote:Honestly, I didn't think he could play in the NFL either, but his passing and, more importantly, his ability to go through his reads has improved tremendously. Another summer with Whitfield, and another season, I think he will be a first or 2nd rounder next year.

se-alum;1535915 wrote:Tons of college QB's that put up big numbers and never pan out in the NFL. They're called system QB's, and they can't hack it in the league because they've never had to read a defense past one or two reads.

Footwedge;1535843 wrote:LOL. My allusion to Tarkenton was spot on. Manziel is faster and quicker than Fran was...thus the reference.

lhslep134;1536161 wrote:You're preaching the fact that Braxton worked with Whitfield, and how much it's improved his read progression and in the same breath discounting the fact that Manziel worked with Whitfield too and also has improved a great ton in progressing through his reads.

Thanks for the laugh, I get a kick out of blatant hypocrisy.

lhslep134;1536161 wrote:You're preaching the fact that Braxton worked with Whitfield, and how much it's improved his read progression and in the same breath discounting the fact that Manziel worked with Whitfield too and also has improved a great ton in progressing through his reads.

Thanks for the laugh, I get a kick out of blatant hypocrisy.