Cleveland Cavaliers Season Thread: Kyrie for MVP!

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Jan 30, 2014 9:09 PM
This team is absolute trash. Ill probably be taking a week or 2 break from watching them at all. They aren't even remotely fun to watch anymore.
Jan 30, 2014 9:09pm
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Jan 30, 2014 9:21 PM
so Tiernan, can i start serving my ban now?

done with this fucking shit show unless some changes are made, and soon.
Jan 30, 2014 9:21pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:12 PM
This is no fucking reason this team should be this bad. Not sure who to blame. Players, coaches, gm, fo and bill Simmons can all GFT.
Jan 30, 2014 10:12pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:18 PM
Commander of Awesome;1574575 wrote:This is no fucking reason this team should be this bad. Not sure who to blame. Players, coaches, gm, fo and bill Simmons can all GFT.
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Jan 30, 2014 10:18pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:30 PM
If you were guaranteed a top 3 pick in this year's draft for Kyrie, would you take it?
Jan 30, 2014 10:30pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:31 PM
Mulva;1574584 wrote:If you were guaranteed a top 3 pick in this year's draft for Kyrie, would you take it?
Yes, Kyrie is not a franchise elite player. Might as well try again
Jan 30, 2014 10:31pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:45 PM
Kyrie is awesome on offense. But I've seen 6th graders who can player better defense. He screws his teammates over and over. Ppl keep talking about him going to LA. But kobe would kill him.
Jan 30, 2014 10:45pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:57 PM
No way I'd give up Kyrie for a top 3 pick this year

You can't have a lone superstar and expect to be very good.
Jan 30, 2014 10:57pm
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Jan 30, 2014 10:58 PM
I'd give up Kyrie for #1. I'm not convinced he's a leader and I'd rather us build around Dion and a SF or C.
Jan 30, 2014 10:58pm
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Jan 30, 2014 11:01 PM
If we keep our pick, then yes. Movie Kyrie for the #1 pick.

Starting 5 next year of

Marcus Smart/Exum (Taken with CLE pick)
Dion Waiters
Deng
Thompson
Embiid (Taken #1)
Jan 30, 2014 11:01pm
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Jan 30, 2014 11:59 PM
SportsAndLady;1574596 wrote:No way I'd give up Kyrie for a top 3 pick this year

You can't have a lone superstar and expect to be very good.
A superstar is supposed to elevate the players around him.
Jan 30, 2014 11:59pm
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Jan 31, 2014 12:04 AM
Also, building around Waiters? If anything, he's regressed this year. If you're an advanced stats guy, his numbers are atrocious.

427th in the NBA in offensive win shares, 200th in defensive win shares
370th in total win shares/48
313th in true shooting %
250th in PER
Negative wins produced for the season

http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/cle
Jan 31, 2014 12:04am
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Jan 31, 2014 6:59 AM
Commander of Awesome;1574575 wrote:This is no fucking reason this team should be this bad. Not sure who to blame. Players, coaches, gm, fo and bill Simmons can all GFT.
Mike Brown and anyone who thought it was a good idea to hire Mike Brown. The guy is simply not a NBA head coach. He couldn't get it done with LeBron. He sucked in LA. What made anyone think he was good at that point?
Jan 31, 2014 6:59am
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Jan 31, 2014 7:27 AM
Yea, lets trade our 21 year old AS PG for a draft pick. Forget the fact that our coach is a moron and about half of the team doesn't deserve to be in the league.
Jan 31, 2014 7:27am
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Jan 31, 2014 7:50 AM
Mulva;1574612 wrote:Also, building around Waiters? If anything, he's regressed this year. If you're an advanced stats guy, his numbers are atrocious.

427th in the NBA in offensive win shares, 200th in defensive win shares
370th in total win shares/48
313th in true shooting %
250th in PER
Negative wins produced for the season

http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams/cle
https://vine.co/v/MzAF9LdqP7b
Jan 31, 2014 7:50am
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Jan 31, 2014 7:52 AM
bases_loaded;1574639 wrote:https://vine.co/v/MzAF9LdqP7b
Waiters is a poor mans Irving.
Jan 31, 2014 7:52am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:01 AM
Rotinaj;1574641 wrote:Waiters is a poor mans Irving.
He's wide open. Our all star decided to go 1 on 3 instead of dishing it.
Jan 31, 2014 8:01am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:04 AM
Other than Magic Johnson and Isiah Thomas has a team where the Point Guard was the best player ever won a title?

Magic almost doesn't count since he could play pretty much any position.

I just don't think Kyrie is elite or going to be elite.
Jan 31, 2014 8:04am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:07 AM
I don't think there are many GMs around the league that think hes elite either...you would have to lose a trade if you trade him.
Jan 31, 2014 8:07am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:16 AM
Kyrie is an all star because of his marketing as Uncle Drew...he doesn't deserve to be a there this year. There are plenty of other more deserving players who actually play defense and elevate the play of their teammates.
Jan 31, 2014 8:16am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:20 AM
bases_loaded;1574644 wrote:He's wide open. Our all star decided to go 1 on 3 instead of dishing it.
He's wide open 5 feet behind the 3 point line. That is a retarded vine and a retarded link to post to make a point.
Jan 31, 2014 8:20am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:21 AM
The funny thing is Waiters does the same shit. I just don't think those 2 are good together.
Jan 31, 2014 8:21am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:24 AM
SportsAndLady;1574652 wrote:He's wide open 5 feet behind the 3 point line. That is a retarded vine and a retarded link to post to make a point.
I forgot in basketball you have to shoot it from where you catch it
Jan 31, 2014 8:24am
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Jan 31, 2014 8:25 AM
bases_loaded;1574655 wrote:I forgot in basketball you have to shoot it from where you catch it
Point is, anyone can take a 5 second video of a basketball game and make an out-of-context point.
Jan 31, 2014 8:25am