sleeper;1524132 wrote:False. This is religion we are talking about. I'm allowed to make claims with no proof and it is up to YOU to prove that it doesn't exist or cannot be interpreted that way.

I don't make the rules jmog; I just follow them.

sleeper;1524132 wrote:False. This is religion we are talking about. I'm allowed to make claims with no proof and it is up to YOU to prove that it doesn't exist or cannot be interpreted that way.

I don't make the rules jmog; I just follow them.

jmog;1524514 wrote:I understand actual logical discussions aren't your forte. However, you claimed you interpreted the Bible that way. I asked for exactly what verses you interpreted that way. So the burden of "proof" is on you.

I Wear Pants;1525583 wrote:I mean, there's a bunch of people who use their apparent Christianity to say that you shouldn't have sex outside of marriage and some take it further to say no sex except to have children. That would clearly be a stance against using contraceptives.

jmog;1524514 wrote:I understand actual logical discussions aren't your forte. However, you claimed you interpreted the Bible that way. I asked for exactly what verses you interpreted that way. So the burden of "proof" is on you.

sleeper;1525600 wrote:You can go ahead and pick any bible verse and I can interpret it as needed. For example Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth". In this case, god did not create birth control and therefore it must have been created by the devil.

sleeper;1525600 wrote:You can go ahead and pick any bible verse and I can interpret it as needed. For example Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth". In this case, god did not create birth control and therefore it must have been created by the devil.

jmog;1525626 wrote:lol, and you say you use logic and reason...good one...

ernest_t_bass;1525615 wrote:god, you're retarded.

sleeper;1525653 wrote:This is religion we are talking about here. Please understand the context and then laugh at yourself for dedicating your whole life to an unproven myth. Logic and reason do not win in a world in which logic and reason are irrelevant. The great thing about religion, since it is all made up, is your can say or do whatever you want and then call it "faith" and its 100% right.

Please prove my faith wrong jmog.

jmog;1525663 wrote:A logical person would use historical records, word etymology, logical reasoning on what authors intended, etc to interpret historical writings such as the Bible.

You, however, just use ad absurdum, which is a logical fallacy.

sleeper;1525667 wrote:I'd love to see the historical record of a man turning water into wine or the one guy who lived in a whale. I mean come on jmog, you seriously believe this stuff? LOL

jmog;1525670 wrote:Since you are having trouble following the dialogue I will spell it out for you.

The post you quoted was talking about interpretations of Bible verses, since I listed historical records, word etymology, and logical reasoning of what the authors intended it is quite obvious I was talking about historical records of the transcripts/ancient texts (i.e. getting what was originally written down, not a translation of a translation).

I was not talking about historical records of supposed supernatural events. A 3rd grader could have understood my context but somehow you missed it.

sleeper;1525672 wrote:No I get it perfectly fine. The bible isn't a complete book; it is up to the user to determine, depending on their agenda, whether the event happened or didn't happen. This seems like a great foundation to base my entire life philosophy on.

Heretic;1525659 wrote:Man, I'm not even religious, but I'd still never call someone's deity of choice a retard. That's harsh, ETB...that's harsh...