SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:05pm
O-VER-RA-TED! O-VER-RA-TED!vball10set;1574292 wrote:So he gets beat on this play and he's no longer a "great defensive player"? lol
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:06pm
Now you're just trolling.SportsAndLady;1574290 wrote:Great defensive player...gets absolutely shook by a PENN STATE player last night on the game winning jumper.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 30, 2014 12:06pm
lol, okSportsAndLady;1574293 wrote:O-VER-RA-TED! O-VER-RA-TED!
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 30, 2014 12:06pm
I never saw an article saying Wiggins was LeBron. I saw a lot that said he was the best HS player since LeBron. And Im not convinced that that isnt true.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 30, 2014 12:08pm
Also, most of them were probably assuming Craft would IMPROVE his shooting. He hasn't. They probably assumed you would be allowed to foul at-will and still only be called for 3 or 4 fouls. They changed the rules.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 30, 2014 12:09pm
Of course you didn't, why would an article say someone was somebody they weren't? and I agree, he's a helluva player, but the best since LeBron?? time will tell...Laley23;1574297 wrote:I never saw an article saying Wiggins was LeBron. I saw a lot that said he was the best HS player since LeBron. And Im not convinced that that isnt true.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:09pm
CBF likes to say a lot of shit that isn't true. He only does it when people take shots at OSU. Strawman fallacy at it's finest. Deflects on the actual argument to take shots at the opposition's team/players even though it's not even true lolLaley23;1574297 wrote:I never saw an article saying Wiggins was LeBron. I saw a lot that said he was the best HS player since LeBron. And Im not convinced that that isnt true.
I'm so glad he's back on this forum...OSU athletics is 100% flawless when he's here.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:10pm
I'd like to focus some hate towards Smith Jr. He sucks.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 30, 2014 12:10pm
One week ago...3pts, 2rbs vs Okl. State. Kid is super talented. Still questions about consistant effort and long stretches of MIA during games. And yes, comparisons.Try google..its really an amazing thing.Laley23;1574297 wrote:I never saw an article saying Wiggins was LeBron. I saw a lot that said he was the best HS player since LeBron. And Im not convinced that that isnt true.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 30, 2014 12:11pm
lol, good catch. But you get my point.vball10set;1574300 wrote:Of course you didn't, why would an article say someone was somebody they weren't? and I agree, he's a helluva player, but the best since LeBron?? time will tell...
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 30, 2014 12:11pm
Coming from a bandwagon fan..oh gee, that hurts. lolSportsAndLady;1574301 wrote:CBF likes to say a lot of shit that isn't true. He only does it when people take shots at OSU. Strawman fallacy at it's finest. Deflects on the actual argument to take shots at the opposition's team/players even though it's not even true lol
I'm so glad he's back on this forum...OSU athletics is 100% flawless when he's here.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:12pm
From an SB Nation article. THAT is exactly why the entire world hates Aaron Craft and calls him overrated.Ohio State senior point guard/leader/Wooden Award Nominee/Guy Who Just Plays To Win The Game And Does Things That Doesn't Show Up On The Stat Sheet/Guy Who Should Be The No. 1 Overall Pick per Dan Dakich, Aaron Craft
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:16pm
People love to hate the scrappy white kid who the media loves to slurp? Shocking!!!
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:16pm
LOL you pick ONE game and call it effort? They won didn't they? The other week Craft had 7 pts and 5 turnovers in a LOSING effort to Minnesota. KU beat a top 25 team, though Wiggins was a non-factor.centralbucksfan;1574303 wrote:One week ago...3pts, 2rbs vs Okl. State. Kid is super talented. Still questions about consistant effort and long stretches of MIA during games. And yes, comparisons.Try google..its really an amazing thing.
Pretty funny you pick one poor game and ignore the others..then call it effort lol you've probably watched mayyyybe 1 KU game.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 30, 2014 12:16pm
My only real problem with Craft is the way the fanbase goes out of its way to make excuses for him when he's playing bad. He's a very good defensive player who is really limited offensively. Or maybe inconsistent is the better word, as he has shown the ability to have 20-point games, but shown an equal ability to be invisible.
But he can have a game where he is solid on defense and horrible on offense with more TOs than assists or steals and the main thing you'll hear is how he's a great guy doing everything he can and it's not his fault that everyone else sucks.
Right now, the team as a whole sucks. That includes him.
But he can have a game where he is solid on defense and horrible on offense with more TOs than assists or steals and the main thing you'll hear is how he's a great guy doing everything he can and it's not his fault that everyone else sucks.
Right now, the team as a whole sucks. That includes him.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 30, 2014 12:17pm
Just did. 1st page has 10 results. None of them compare the two as equals. I have no desire to continue onto page 2.centralbucksfan;1574303 wrote:One week ago...3pts, 2rbs vs Okl. State. Kid is super talented. Still questions about consistant effort and long stretches of MIA during games. And yes, comparisons.Try google..its really an amazing thing.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:19pm
Did you misspell something?Laley23;1574313 wrote:Just did. 1st page has 10 results. None of them compare the two as equals. I have no desire to continue onto page 2.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lebron+wiggins&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS435US435&oq=lebron+wiggins&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3946j0j1&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
No equals but lots of talk.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 30, 2014 12:25pm
Did you read the articles? I dont think any of them say he is LeBron James.Automatik;1574315 wrote:Did you misspell something?
https://www.google.com/search?q=lebron+wiggins&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS435US435&oq=lebron+wiggins&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3946j0j1&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
No equals but lots of talk.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:28pm
I'd like to read the GQ one, but don't have the time right now. No doubting he's been mentioned in the same breathe though....but like I said no equal comparison at a quick glance.
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vball10set
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Jan 30, 2014 12:28pm
'nuff saidHeretic;1574312 wrote:
Right now, the team as a whole sucks. That includes him.
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vball10set
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Jan 30, 2014 12:35pm
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 30, 2014 12:37pm
[QUO TE=Automatik;1574326]I'd like to read the GQ one, but don't have the time right now. No doubting he's been mentioned in the same breathe though....but like I said no equal comparison at a quick glance.[/QUOTE]
Every year there's a player that is mentioned in the same breath as Lebron, it's not to say they're equal or better to Lebron but more just a comparison for the best player in the league, which Lebron is. And it's just a prediction.
Every year there's a player that is mentioned in the same breath as Lebron, it's not to say they're equal or better to Lebron but more just a comparison for the best player in the league, which Lebron is. And it's just a prediction.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 30, 2014 12:40pm
I read it. It basically mentions all the great HS players over the last 10 years (since Lebron) and talks about Wiggins game. They compare his length to McGrady, demeonor to Melo, potential to LeBron (in terms of being an NBA AS), etc. They actually mention they are not near the same player, and LeBron threw his 240 frame around in HS where Wiggins is 200 and plays more like a fluid, no contact player.Automatik;1574326 wrote:I'd like to read the GQ one, but don't have the time right now. No doubting he's been mentioned in the same breathe though....but like I said no equal comparison at a quick glance.
They dont say he is the next LeBron or anything. They basically say that these are the reasons why he will be #1 pick and why teams want him more than anyone since LeBron.
Most people are smart enough to know its retarded to ever say someone will be LeBron before they truly get to that point.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 30, 2014 1:20pm
Boom.Laley23;1574334 wrote:I read it. It basically mentions all the great HS players over the last 10 years (since Lebron) and talks about Wiggins game. They compare his length to McGrady, demeonor to Melo, potential to LeBron (in terms of being an NBA AS), etc. They actually mention they are not near the same player, and LeBron threw his 240 frame around in HS where Wiggins is 200 and plays more like a fluid, no contact player.
They dont say he is the next LeBron or anything. They basically say that these are the reasons why he will be #1 pick and why teams want him more than anyone since LeBron.
Most people are smart enough to know its retarded to ever say someone will be LeBron before they truly get to that point.
What say you, cbf?
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jan 30, 2014 1:33pm
This is spot on.Heretic;1574312 wrote:My only real problem with Craft is the way the fanbase goes out of its way to make excuses for him when he's playing bad. He's a very good defensive player who is really limited offensively. Or maybe inconsistent is the better word, as he has shown the ability to have 20-point games, but shown an equal ability to be invisible.
But he can have a game where he is solid on defense and horrible on offense with more TOs than assists or steals and the main thing you'll hear is how he's a great guy doing everything he can and it's not his fault that everyone else sucks.
Right now, the team as a whole sucks. That includes him.