lhslep134;1629743 wrote:Because you DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE WATCHING. If the Heat give up a basket in the post that was a the result of Lebron's lazy rotation sideline screen or gets caught ball watching, you don't realize the play was a result of Lebron's lazy (and hence, "bad") defense.

Considering the rests of your posts on the topic, you don't have a high level understanding of basketball.

robj55;1629736 wrote:He gets credit because he makes plays and defends at a high level against all positions. Those stats don't mean shit, everyone with vision can see Melo is a bad defender, which is a shame. They might have made the playoffs this year had he taken up enough pride to play at a high level on that end. It's not like he's incapable of doing so. I watched almost all of Lebron's games this year, there was no slippage in his defense.

robj55;1629745 wrote:Don't care about numbers when it comes to defense.

HighRoller74;1629738 wrote:Did you read the article?

Lebron is putting pressure on the Miami FO to trade him for Blake Griffin?

robj55;1629747 wrote:Who else is there? Not a TT fan. Who is available that is reasonable?

wildcats20;1629753 wrote:But you use Wade's BPG as a way to say he's still a high level defender???

Commander of Awesome;1629755 wrote:I'm a bigger TT fan than most but even I can see by now he's limited. I just don't see a good core with the Cavs. Too many players without true positions, no defense, and bunch of prima dona bitch boys.

robj55;1629756 wrote:BPG are measurable, they are a real stat. Defensive efficiency isn't. Many factors that can go into that. A block is a block at the end of the day.

KB0938;1629752 wrote:Advance stats dont really lie, theyre based of facts and what actually has happened. So idk how theyd be wrong or not mean anything really.

And I do agree hes a better defender than Melo, but as far as not dropping off at all this year. Its been documented on more than 1 occasion that he slipped from his normal standard. Probably due to having to carry more of the load on offense, but still

robj55;1629736 wrote: I watched almost all of Lebron's games this year, there was no slippage in his defense.

robj55;1629751 wrote:Wrong. I understand the game very well.

wildcats20;1629758 wrote:And the defensive stats for Bron decreased from last year to this.

Defensive stats being blocks and steals.

robj55;1629757 wrote:A leader like Lebron could change that instantly. Or if Blatt is as big of a disciplinarian as they say he is possibly he can.

lhslep134;1629760 wrote:These two posts are incompatible. If you understood the game, you'd have seen the slippage. If you don't, you wouldn't have seen it.

Commander of Awesome;1629763 wrote:No LBJ changes that bc he's the best player on the planet. He doesn't make Dion grow 3 inches, and Kyrie all of a sudden GAF about defense on his end of the floor. At the end of the day Kyrie/Dion is still undersized, we have Bennett who's a bum without a true position, TT who's undersized, Varejao who will play for 30 games this season and a bunch of bums.

robj55;1629764 wrote:I'll keep watching games and you keep reading advanced stats. Maybe I'm just old school like that. I don't get into those stats.

robj55;1629765 wrote:There roster is better than when Lebron left easily. Lebron would make them understand that defense is important especially if they want to win a title. You could put Lebron on any team and they are instantly in the second round imo, he would make all the difference.

KB0938;1629762 wrote:Blocks can be overrated just as much as any other stat.

For example. When Marcus Camby was in Denver and was consistently one of the DPOY finalists or won it(07 or 08) he had great block numbers. But watching him play, for every weakside block hed get....hed go for one and leave his man open on the backside for an open layup. But that doesnt go in the books, just when he got a block. I used to hate watching him, he was so bad at team defense and our team got abused down low. But he got rebounds and blocks so he was DPOY candidate status

Commander of Awesome;1629767 wrote:Yeah man, I just don't understand how LBJ wasn't able to get Miami heat fans to go to games either. Guess even he has limits of his powers?

lhslep134;1629766 wrote:Noting a slip in effort (or in your case, lackthereof) has nothing to do with stats.

You keep on talking about your eye test. I'm talking about it NOW, and you're STILL WRONG. And, I showed you words from other people that also said you're wrong.

robj55;1629769 wrote:South beach, ass and tits everywhere. lol

robj55;1629770 wrote:Still an elite defender. / discussion.

robj55;1629770 wrote:Still an elite defender. / discussion.

wildcats20;1629758 wrote:And the defensive stats for Bron decreased from last year to this.

Defensive stats being blocks and steals.