lhslep134;1629461 wrote:Sleeper you and I are both in agreement the Heat 's current model (2013/14) didn't work. However, I vehemently stand by my assertion that Bosh had nothing to do with it, both on the court with his vastly expansive game and off the court, with his $19M salary. Again, Bosh earned his money, or at the very least, most of it.

The problem is very simple, and his name is Dwayne Wade. Wade's massively disproportionate salary to performance ratio, when combined with them being "hamstrung"* by the limited space available, contributed way more to the Heat's demise this year than Bosh.

Disagree?





*I'm sorry but if you're a billionaire owner, I'm not going to feel sorry you don't want to pay a few extra million dollars in salary cap penalties.

sleeper;1629472 wrote:Congrats. Bosh had very little to do with the team at that point and was paid an appropriate $3.1. Cut his current salary around that and you'd get some value out of him.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1629474 wrote:Um, that post was in regards to Agent Zero lol. I think you are correct in the fact that Bosh never won a playoff series.

lhslep134;1629431 wrote:Read the article and tell he he's good at best. I'll have a good chuckle. He's an perennial all star. Perennial all stars = fantastic players (not star, not superstar, but fantastic).

You're misconstruing fantastic to mean superstar, or even a top 10 player.

KB0938;1629477 wrote:I agre hes a great player, but the All star argument is weak. Especially when fan voting can get damn near anybody in, its a popularity contest really

sleeper;1629472 wrote:Congrats. Bosh had very little to do with the team at that point and was paid an appropriate $3.1. Cut his current salary around that and you'd get some value out of him.

KB0938;1629477 wrote:I agre hes a great player, but the All star argument is weak. Especially when fan voting can get damn near anybody in, its a popularity contest really

robj55;1629484 wrote:He averaged 17 and 9 as a 20 year old kid.

lhslep134;1629461 wrote:Sleeper you and I are both in agreement the Heat 's current model (2013/14) didn't work. However, I vehemently stand by my assertion that Bosh had nothing to do with it, both on the court with his vastly expansive game and off the court, with his $19M salary. Again, Bosh earned his money, or at the very least, most of it.

Trueblue23;1629522 wrote:I wouldn't pay Wade or Bosh $10 mill a year. No way.

sleeper;1629491 wrote:Not difficult to do on a shitty team when you are the main target.

Not sure why people think Bosh is still a top tier player. He's average at best and not worth $20M a year.

HighRoller74;1629527 wrote:Kings-Pistons talking deal.

Josh Smith, for some scrubs.

robj55;1629529 wrote:Giving up on him already huh lol

HighRoller74;1629531 wrote:As they should.

He was a terrible signing, by a terrible GM lol.

robj55;1629533 wrote:Didn't Dumars build the Billups led Pistons that won a title? Or was that before him?

HighRoller74;1629537 wrote:He did, but it's a consensus that he lucked into that.

Look at some of his moves, since he built that team, starting with Darko.

Just terrible.

Darko
Trading for Iverson
Trading for Brandon Jennings
Signing Josh Smith, Ben Gordon, Charlie V.
Drafting Austin Daye
Traded Aaron Afflalo for Vernon Macklin.

robj55;1629538 wrote:Darko was supposedly the next big thing out of Europe at the time, can't really fault him that he didn't pan out. I actually liked Austin Daye at Gonzaga but yeah the rest of those moves are awful.

Pick6;1629540 wrote:Bosh blows, Wade blows. Thank god sleeper knows.

robj55;1629544 wrote:Wade is coming off his most efficient year ever and actually played pretty damn well up until the finals. He just fell apart.