Tiernan;1507633 wrote:When you all see KG and Braxton at some point in the line-up together...I better be getting a dozen PMs saying "Tiernan I bow down to you, you are indeed a CFB genius".

never

Pick6;1507395 wrote:im aware

Are you? Because you weren't aware you were talking about Cal when you should have been talking about FAMU :RpS_blink:

vball10set;1507626 wrote:Prediction: OSU-34 Wisky-21

no way, offense will put up 40+.......mark it down. Guaranteed. Stone cold. Go ahead and put your house up for collateral

Question is.......points allowed - I'm guessing in 28-32 range

^^^I'd love to see you be correct, believe me.

Just curious, hows tailgating been this year? Not near the stadium, I'm talking about Hineygate area, Little Bar, etc...

Little Bar was my go to spot in the past, but the last time I went it was packed as fuck. Anything new?

All of the bars are always packed

dlazz;1507830 wrote:All of the bars are always packed

Little Bar used to be much better when Hineygate was still going strong.....but then the masses caught on.

I don't think anyone denies that Braxton needed work as a qb. He even did obviously by going to a qb coach. But the staff and players said he was completely different. Hard to say since we only saw him for a game. But he's a better player than KG. Meyer is a winning coach, if KG was better,he'd play him. Period.

ccrunner609;1507849 wrote:OSU was ranked 85th last year in passing offense, 110th the year before. THat isnt good and is a direct reflection on who is the QB. I have posted numerous times with stats and imperical evidence to back my case and all I get is "stick to CC" and "YOur a troll"........just tells me I might be right here.

Why do you have troll?

Your stats show nothing really, just stupid assumptions that you keep making up that are absolutely ridiculous. Braxton Miller lead the ENTIRE B1G at the end of the season last year in passing efficiency. His yards per attempt is 2 yards more than Guiton. He's better, period.

ccrunner609;1507849 wrote:OSU was ranked 85th last year in passing offense, 110th the year before. THat isnt good and is a direct reflection on who is the QB. I have posted numerous times with stats and imperical evidence to back my case and all I get is "stick to CC" and "YOur a troll"........just tells me I might be right here.

You're not right because you cherry-pick certain stats without looking at the big picture and then proclaim that you're right based off that.

Coming into last year, Urban looked at WR as arguably their worst position, not sure if he could count on anyone. He also had a lot of RBs fighting for time and a mobile quarterback, so obviously they were going to focus on the ground and the team wouldn't have a ton of passing yards. As pointed out, Miller was as good as they get as far as passing efficiency in the Big 10; but just wasn't called on to do a ton of passing because the run game was what they were based around.

This year, the offense is more pass-oriented because Meyer feels Miller's even better and he has more faith in the receivers. Guiton's done a great job taking advantage of that against two pathetic defenses. If Miller's healthy, it's his job unless he plays poorly enough to lose it.

As for your data, the stuff you include about how the offense did with Kenny G this year as compared to against teams in games 3 and 4 last year was just a joke that I'd hope no one would remotely take seriously and doesn't even deserve this much commentary. If you're too derpy to realize things, in college sports, things change greatly from year to year because of things like graduation, transfers, the NFL draft and so on.

Honestly guys (LJ, Heretic) I can't believe you're even wasting time responding to CC's stat cherrypicking.

While I say thanks for the (IMO correct) analysis, I think everyone agrees with what you had to say except CC

lhslep134;1507872 wrote:Honestly guys (LJ, Heretic) I can't believe you're even wasting time responding to CC's stat cherrypicking.

While I say thanks for the (IMO correct) analysis, I think everyone agrees with what you had to say except CC

This. cc's a stump, and there ain't no arguing with a stump.

lhslep134;1507730 wrote:Are you? Because you weren't aware you were talking about Cal when you should have been talking about FAMU :RpS_blink:

I was? Thanks. I didnt know. Try harder please.

Pick6;1507876 wrote:I was? Thanks. I didnt know. Try harder please.

I don't need to try hard when you're doing all the work for me. In the same thread you call someone out for not being aware, you make a totally unaware statement. Not any effort required on my behalf.

lhslep134;1508301 wrote:In the same thread you call someone out for not being aware, you make a totally unaware statement.

Yea that's been pointed out a time or two already. Solid contribution. Keep it up. You'd makes great lawyer.

So anyway....

Baby Bron Bron will be giving the team a pep talk tomorrow night. Yay.

Pick6;1507876 wrote:Try harder please.

Pick6;1508303 wrote:You'd makes great lawyer.

Hypocrisy at it's finest. You should just stop posting. Or at least find a new shtick.

wildcats20;1508305 wrote:So anyway....

Baby Bron Bron will be giving the team a pep talk tomorrow night. Yay.

#WishICouldWearTheScarletAndRed

Not really a fan of Bron Bron but probably a nice recruiting point to have him visit the university from time to time. Just as long as he doesn't wear an Alabama hat or whatever team he is on the bandwagon with.

sleeper;1508349 wrote:Not really a fan of Bron Bron but probably a nice recruiting point to have him visit the university from time to time. Just as long as he doesn't wear an Alabama hat or whatever team he is on the bandwagon with.

Or discuss with Meyer the possibility of him taking his talents back to Florida.

I hope Braxton has a hell of a day. I got a feeling its imminent.

I'm actually surprised by how you guys are treating CC's opinion. It's not that different from a lot of legit anyalists and big time OSU fans. While I don't agree, I think they're pretty much even as passers. Braxton frustrated the hell out of me last year by how hesitant he was sometimes and his inability to go to anybody but his first read, and KG has shown an ability to make the correct read a very high percentage of the time.

ohiobucks1;1508384 wrote:I'm actually surprised by how you guys are treating CC's opinion. It's not that different from a lot of legit anyalists and big time OSU fans. While I don't agree, I think they're pretty much even as passers. Braxton frustrated the hell out of me last year by how hesitant he was sometimes and his inability to go to anybody but his first read, and KG has shown an ability to make the correct read a very high percentage of the time.

What analysts? The majority of analyst opinions I have heard is that Braxton has a stronger arm which opens up more of the playbook. He actually goes deeper into his progressions on passes than Guiton. The analysts all say that Guiton makes the correct read everytime when it comes to the option on the zone read, not passing plays. There are commentators making this into a QB controversy because they are commentators and it's good for business.

As for those "big time OSU fans", a lot of those fans are never happy with offensive starters and always want "the other guy". There are guys that call into 97.1 when Craig Krenzel is on there and talk about how McMullen was a better QB and should have played over Krenzel.

LJ;1508417 wrote:What analysts? The majority of analyst opinions I have heard is that Braxton has a stronger arm which opens up more of the playbook. He actually goes deeper into his progressions on passes than Guiton. The analysts all say that Guiton makes the correct read everytime when it comes to the option on the zone read, not passing plays. There are commentators making this into a QB controversy because they are commentators and it's good for business.

As for those "big time OSU fans", a lot of those fans are never happy with offensive starters and always want "the other guy". There are guys that call into 97.1 when Craig Krenzel is on there and talk about how McMullen was a better QB and should have played over Krenzel.

lol, I have a good friend who is one of those "big time OSU fans". Virtually the entire time I've known him, he's wanted the back-up. Well, when it was Bauserman, he didn't call for him, but the rest of the time...yeah. I remember one day where he stormed out of the friend's place we were watching a close loss to Penn State saying that the team's seniors should just quit the team because Pryor was starting instead of Boeckman. It was great!

It was already mentioned, but do people forget the comments George Whitfield made about Miller?

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/04/21252/ohio-state-football-george-whitfield-jr-braxton-miller