SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 16, 2013 1:30pm
Colt McCoy would actually help this team. Which is sad.BR1986FB;1501259 wrote:Blech. Colt McCoy Part 2.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 16, 2013 1:36pm
With this O-Line & receivers, doubt it. His scrambling ability might help him get out of jams but frigging Little would just drop the ball.SportsAndLady;1501345 wrote:Colt McCoy would actually help this team. Which is sad.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 16, 2013 1:58pm
He couldn't be much worse than what were seeing now. Can he?BR1986FB;1501354 wrote:With this O-Line & receivers, doubt it. His scrambling ability might help him get out of jams but frigging Little would just drop the ball.
His scrambling ability is exactly what they would need with this Swiss cheese oline
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Sep 16, 2013 2:01pm
To be honest sat was the first time I really sat and watched Manzeil play. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I thought that this season was going to be huge in the NFL to see if those type of qb's, running and read option, could still flourish after a full offseason of NFL D coords game planning. It almost seems like they are becoming more pocket passing oriented but still with the ability to run.
The browns will have to totally change their offensive scheme and personnel if they get him though. If they, or any team, tries to put him into a drop back passing offense I think he fails.
The browns will have to totally change their offensive scheme and personnel if they get him though. If they, or any team, tries to put him into a drop back passing offense I think he fails.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 16, 2013 2:01pm
Guess my point was what would it matter even if he could break free scrambling? Unless he's going to run for 50 yard TD's every time he breaks away, the damn WR's aren't going to catch his passes except for maybe Cameron & Bess.SportsAndLady;1501398 wrote:He couldn't be much worse than what were seeing now. Can he?
His scrambling ability is exactly what they would need with this Swiss cheese oline
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 16, 2013 2:03pm
Which means ANOTHER rebuild ! Oh goody !thavoice;1501402 wrote: The browns will have to totally change their offensive scheme and personnel if they get him though. If they, or any team, tries to put him into a drop back passing offense I think he fails.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Sep 16, 2013 2:05pm
Can Chud change his offense to adapt to a manzeil? I know he was successful a number of years ago with a drop back passing attack with DA but after he left I lost track where he went.BR1986FB;1501405 wrote:Which means ANOTHER rebuild ! Oh goody !
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 16, 2013 2:06pm
He help Cam Newton have a solid rookie year. One of the knocks on Chud is that he usually gets the most out of a QB the first year in his system then they fall off. Happened with DA and Newton.thavoice;1501410 wrote:Can Chud change his offense to adapt to a manzeil? I know he was successful a number of years ago with a drop back passing attack with DA but after he left I lost track where he went.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 16, 2013 2:41pm
Wrong. Nice underhand flip on 4th down. You have to start Hoyer if weeden can't go.Pick6;1500867 wrote:lets go Campbell. cant be any worse than Weedon
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
Sep 16, 2013 2:48pm
Oh look the retard can't figure out how to post the pic[/QUOTE]
Thank you Justin for fixing the site. I was able to post a great Browns player picture.
Thank you Justin for fixing the site. I was able to post a great Browns player picture.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 16, 2013 2:52pm
Unless Campbell/Hoyer can block for themselves and catch their own passes it doesn't matter if Jesus on rollerskates is back there. We'll have the same, if not worse, result. This team (offensively) just isn't very good right now...from QB (Weeden) on down.iclfan2;1501465 wrote:Wrong. Nice underhand flip on 4th down. You have to start Hoyer if weeden can't go.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 16, 2013 4:33pm
"It was a poor choice of words when NBC talked about it during the weather delay last night.thavoice;1501245 wrote:
They said on NBC last night I think that the browns had scouts at the A&M game to look at manzeil
There were reportedly five different NFL GMs at this particular game too.
They weren't just there to see Manziel.
There were a pair of Top 10 left tackles on display, a first round LB, a first round safety, Mike Evans (who will be FLYING up mocks and boards), another pretty good QB, etc.
So, to you say the scouts/GMs were there to see Johnny Manziel is blatant pandering to the audience."
Brent Sobleski on this "news" story.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 16, 2013 4:41pm
Nobody mentioned this, and I didn't want to say anything because I will be accused of just being a bitter sore loser, but I am not impressed with the rat birds at all.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Sep 16, 2013 4:45pm
Yeah.... I can't see them doing much. If cincy doesn't win the division this year... They never willlike_that;1501546 wrote:Nobody mentioned this, and I didn't want to say anything because I will be accused of just being a bitter sore loser, but I am not impressed with the rat birds at all.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Sep 16, 2013 5:15pm
I agree.like_that;1501546 wrote:Nobody mentioned this, and I didn't want to say anything because I will be accused of just being a bitter sore loser, but I am not impressed with the rat birds at all.
I actually think Cincy could get homefield (if Denver slips up a lot) in the AFC like Houston did last year. They have 6 very winnable games on their schedule from the division alone. But, while I like their team, they are still the Bengals and will probably fuck up and make the playoffs as a Wild Card team lol
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 16, 2013 5:20pm
As I have said before, I simply am not impressed with the division as a whole.Laley23;1501567 wrote:I agree.
I actually think Cincy could get homefield (if Denver slips up a lot) in the AFC like Houston did last year. They have 6 very winnable games on their schedule from the division alone. But, while I like their team, they are still the Bengals and will probably fuck up and make the playoffs as a Wild Card team lol
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 17, 2013 11:11am
They won the Super Bowl last year and I still wasn't impressed by them. They sucked the whole season and then the Killa announces his "farewell tour" and they get a fire lit under their ass. Browns almost beat them twice so, no....I wasn't impressed.like_that;1501546 wrote:Nobody mentioned this, and I didn't want to say anything because I will be accused of just being a bitter sore loser, but I am not impressed with the rat birds at all.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Sep 17, 2013 11:28am
The only way Denver loses homefield is if Peyton gets hurt. WHen he got his feet wet last year they won out in the regular season and right now are on fire. They may slip up a few games, but I see the bengals slipping up more than the BronsosLaley23;1501567 wrote:I agree.
I actually think Cincy could get homefield (if Denver slips up a lot) in the AFC like Houston did last year. They have 6 very winnable games on their schedule from the division alone. But, while I like their team, they are still the Bengals and will probably fuck up and make the playoffs as a Wild Card team lol
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Sep 17, 2013 11:34am
Yep. Two teams have fallen, one seems to be mired in a quagmire and the other might be decent, but they've looked pretty blah so far.like_that;1501572 wrote:As I have said before, I simply am not impressed with the division as a whole.
This year in the North could be like a couple years back in the NFC West when Seattle and St. Louis were locked in that "8-8 for the win!" battle.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Sep 17, 2013 11:40am
Great comparison.... 9-7, 8-8 may get it doneHeretic;1502188 wrote:Yep. Two teams have fallen, one seems to be mired in a quagmire and the other might be decent, but they've looked pretty blah so far.
This year in the North could be like a couple years back in the NFC West when Seattle and St. Louis were locked in that "8-8 for the win!" battle.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 17, 2013 12:12pm
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/09/16/refo-cle-bal-week-2/
Wes will enjoy the Joe GOAThomas stat.
Wes will enjoy the Joe GOAThomas stat.