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Tiernan

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Sep 4, 2013 10:20 AM
According to a just released 60 Minutes / Vanity Fair Poll more Americans said they would be willing to die for their religion than for their country. While 55% were willing to die for their children, 10% would choose to go for religion and only 5% for their country.

Once again I am never surprised by the number of idiots that live in America...
Sep 4, 2013 10:20am
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Sep 4, 2013 10:27 AM
I would not die for my religion since I do not have one. I would die for my country but not "my" government.
Sep 4, 2013 10:27am
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gport_tennis

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Sep 4, 2013 10:27 AM
What is so bad about dying for one's religion? Also 5% willing to die for their country is pretty low
Sep 4, 2013 10:27am
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Tiernan

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Sep 4, 2013 10:36 AM
gport_tennis;1495242 wrote:What is so bad about dying for one's religion?
Well since religion has killed more people throughout history than cancer, I find it humorous that people are willing to voluntarily die for something that is mythical.
Sep 4, 2013 10:36am
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queencitybuckeye

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Sep 4, 2013 10:39 AM
gport_tennis;1495242 wrote:Also 5% willing to die for their country is pretty low
Patton had it right.
Sep 4, 2013 10:39am
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hasbeen

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Sep 4, 2013 10:58 AM
queencitybuckeye;1495253 wrote:Patton had it right.
Don't die for yours, make the other guy die for his.

And I don't get how dying for your religion is beneficial to religion.

Also, only 55% would die for their children?
Sep 4, 2013 10:58am
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gut

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Sep 4, 2013 11:06 AM
hasbeen;1495261 wrote: Also, only 55% would die for their children?
Seems high, right?

I think all of these numbers would have been considerably higher 20-25 years ago.
Sep 4, 2013 11:06am
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Sep 4, 2013 11:07 AM
hasbeen;1495261 wrote:Also, only 55% would die for their children?
Yeah, I found this odd.
Sep 4, 2013 11:07am
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Sep 4, 2013 11:14 AM
Tiernan;1495235 wrote:According to a just released 60 Minutes / Vanity Fair Poll more Americans said they would be willing to die for their religion than for their country. While 55% were willing to die for their children, 10% would choose to go for religion and only 5% for their country.

Once again I am never surprised by the number of idiots that live in America...

reps. (e/justin wont let me) Although every year less and less retards believe in the Christianity and the Bible.
Which mean eventually less will be willing to die for religion than country.


http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/how-will-the-shocking-decline-of-christianity-in-america-affect-the-future-of-this-nation
Sep 4, 2013 11:14am
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Sep 4, 2013 11:22 AM
justincredible;1495241 wrote:I would die for my country but not "my" government.
This. But since our country is so heavily government run right now, I don't know if I could say I'd die for my country. I'm not really protecting any freedoms, when the govt. tramples them constantly.

As for religion... religions praise martyrs.
Sep 4, 2013 11:22am
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gport_tennis

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Sep 4, 2013 11:45 AM
Tiernan;1495252 wrote:Well since religion has killed more people throughout history than cancer, I find it humorous that people are willing to voluntarily die for something that is mythical.
Mythical in your opinion. I do not see anything wrong with people willing to stand up and die for what they believe in (protecting family, religion, country) At least they have a purpose in life.

Also, there is a difference between dying for what you believe in and killing for what you believe in.
Sep 4, 2013 11:45am
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queencitybuckeye

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Sep 4, 2013 11:51 AM
gport_tennis;1495300 wrote: Also, there is a difference between dying for what you believe in and killing for what you believe in.
If I am 100% convinced that I'm right, wouldn't the latter make the world a better place rather than the former?
Sep 4, 2013 11:51am
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Sep 4, 2013 11:52 AM
gport_tennis;1495300 wrote:Also, there is a difference between dying for what you believe in and killing for what you believe in.
Men kill, l'il bitches die?

Am I warm or cold with this one? Plz be honest...
Sep 4, 2013 11:52am
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Sep 4, 2013 12:13 PM
hasbeen;1495261 wrote:Also, only 55% would die for their children?
justincredible;1495269 wrote:Yeah, I found this odd.
Apparently, 45% of the respondents did not have children.
Sep 4, 2013 12:13pm
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Sep 4, 2013 12:15 PM
I would die for my religion. I get a shitload of virgins when I die.
Sep 4, 2013 12:15pm
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Sep 4, 2013 12:16 PM
wkfan;1495322 wrote:Apparently, 45% of the respondents did not have children.
Hopefully. But I don't have children and I would have answered yes to that question. I mean, I'd die for my niece and nephew.
Sep 4, 2013 12:16pm
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gport_tennis

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Sep 4, 2013 12:22 PM
queencitybuckeye;1495309 wrote:If I am 100% convinced that I'm right, wouldn't the latter make the world a better place rather than the former?

No, just because you believe something to be true beyond doubt, does not make it so.

It is necessary to be around people of different beliefs than you. If you are only around people that believe the same things you believe in, and there is nothing to challenge your beliefs, you will not grow as an individual.
Sep 4, 2013 12:22pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Sep 4, 2013 12:24 PM
gport_tennis;1495332 wrote:No, just because you believe something to be true beyond doubt, does not make it so.
Which makes doing either in the name of religion a questionable activity.
Sep 4, 2013 12:24pm
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Sep 4, 2013 12:26 PM
justincredible;1495327 wrote:Hopefully. But I don't have children and I would have answered yes to that question. I mean, I'd die for my niece and nephew.
This.
Sep 4, 2013 12:26pm
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Tiernan

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Sep 4, 2013 12:31 PM
wkfan;1495322 wrote:Apparently, 45% of the respondents did not have children.
You guys are looking at this from your safe suburban white bread perspective...lots of Americans don't have a clue where their kids are let alone die for them. But then again that particular element of society probably ain't responding to a Vanity Fair poll either...soooo carry on.
Sep 4, 2013 12:31pm
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Sep 4, 2013 12:48 PM
taking it a bit off course, but I wouldn't die for my dogs. I'd probably kill for them though!
Sep 4, 2013 12:48pm
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Dr. Heinz Fraudster

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Sep 4, 2013 1:01 PM
Anyone who would not die for G_d is selfish.
Sep 4, 2013 1:01pm
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Sep 4, 2013 1:19 PM
hasbeen;1495348 wrote:taking it a bit off course, but I wouldn't die for my dogs. I'd probably kill for them though!
I'm with you here.
Sep 4, 2013 1:19pm
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Sep 4, 2013 1:29 PM
Dr. Heinz Kesler;1495354 wrote:Anyone who would not die for G_d is selfish.
Selfishness is a virtue, so sayeth I.
Sep 4, 2013 1:29pm
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Sep 4, 2013 1:37 PM
Dr. Heinz Kesler;1495354 wrote:Anyone who would not die for G_d is selfish.
Who is Gud?
Sep 4, 2013 1:37pm