gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Aug 29, 2013 11:50am
Teachers and drive thru workers 2 of the most underpaid and probably under laid positions in the world.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Aug 29, 2013 11:51am
Speaking of drive thru workers...Who was the genius on the huddle that asked a girl in the wendys drive through line out on a date, whom had just one arm, and was turned down?gerb131;1493015 wrote:Teachers and drive thru workers 2 of the most underpaid and probably under laid positions in the world.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 29, 2013 2:45pm
Detroit MCDONALD'S Forced To Close After Employee Walk Out...
GREASE MY CHECK: Protests Expand to 50 Cities...
Demand $15-per-hour minimum wage...
'I'm not going to stay quiet'...
Right out of the Community-Activist-in-Chief's playbook.
'Rules for Radicals' coming to a neighborhhod near you.
Change we can believe in ........
GREASE MY CHECK: Protests Expand to 50 Cities...
Demand $15-per-hour minimum wage...
'I'm not going to stay quiet'...
Right out of the Community-Activist-in-Chief's playbook.
'Rules for Radicals' coming to a neighborhhod near you.
Change we can believe in ........
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Aug 29, 2013 2:48pm
Jesus that was so long ago. I've always thought it was 3Ball but I really can't remember.thavoice;1493016 wrote:Speaking of drive thru workers...Who was the genius on the huddle that asked a girl in the wendys drive through line out on a date, whom had just one arm, and was turned down?
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2013 2:50pm
They have every right to strike for better pay, the restaurants have the rights to replace them, or wait them out. Somehow, I suspect the strikers' "war chest" is about seven minutes from running out.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Aug 29, 2013 2:53pm
The interesting thing is that this affects a few percentage points of the population, the vast majority aren't sympathetic to their demands, and they think they have any type of power - yet these "protests" gets national attention. It is an entry level job for that reason, it is entry level. If we all had a living wage doing nothing more than interacting with customers, we'd all do it. The point of employment at these places is to get experience, develop a work ethic and leverage that to a better job. No one should aspire to be a 30 year McDonalds employee because it pays a "living wage". Idiocy.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2013 3:11pm
I get and agree with the sentiment of what you're saying. Just need to point out that the company in question has tens of thousands of six-figure jobs.Manhattan Buckeye;1493150 wrote:No one should aspire to be a 30 year McDonalds employee because it pays a "living wage". Idiocy.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 29, 2013 3:17pm
You knew exactly what he meant. :rolleyes:queencitybuckeye;1493169 wrote:I get and agree with the sentiment of what you're saying. Just need to point out that the company in question has tens of thousands of six-figure jobs.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Aug 29, 2013 3:20pm
Those aren't the people that are striking. No one striking is aspiring to do anything other than flipping a burger. They want a handout. The people that aspire for the six-figure McD's jobs aren't flipping burgers very long.queencitybuckeye;1493169 wrote:I get and agree with the sentiment of what you're saying. Just need to point out that the company in question has tens of thousands of six-figure jobs.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2013 3:21pm
I did. I was just pointing out that instead of protesting, an entry-level employee might be better served in doing their job in a way that distinguishes him/herself from co-workers. There's just shitloads of opportunity at companies like these if you make it happen.WebFire;1493176 wrote:You knew exactly what he meant. :rolleyes:
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2013 3:24pm
I agree with this in general. It bothers me when people take the easy road of claiming it's a dead-end job, when it just is not the case.TedSheckler;1493178 wrote:Those aren't the people that are striking. No one striking is aspiring to do anything other than flipping a burger. They want a handout. The people that aspire for the six-figure McD's jobs aren't flipping burgers very long.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Aug 29, 2013 3:58pm
I doubt there are 10,000 McDonald's employees that make 6 figures. Especially given so many of their restaurants are franchised where the ultimate owner isn't an employee.queencitybuckeye;1493169 wrote:I get and agree with the sentiment of what you're saying. Just need to point out that the company in question has tens of thousands of six-figure jobs.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 29, 2013 3:58pm
The American dream baby
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 29, 2013 4:12pm
queencitybuckeye;1493169 wrote:I get and agree with the sentiment of what you're saying. Just need to point out that the company in question has tens of thousands of six-figure jobs.
Tens of thousands is a stretch, but no doubt that thousands of entry level McDonald's workers learned basic job skills and a work ethic that caused them to later advance up the pay scale with better opportunities ahead; many have become managers or franchise owners and are making well into 6 figures.
The problem with all these whiners today is that they don't want to work, or put the time in that is necessary to build up the work experience that is necessary to be rewarded by the job market down the road with better pay. It's just me, me, me, now, now, now! They are not unlike the activist/agitator in the WH. They have absolutely no clue about economics 101, or what it takes to run a business. Occupy McDonald's, baby!
What a bunch of moronic losers we are raising.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2013 4:21pm
It isn't. I didn't throw out a random number.QuakerOats;1493203 wrote:Tens of thousands is a stretch,
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Aug 29, 2013 4:27pm
You'd work at Mcdonalds for $15 an hour?Manhattan Buckeye;1493150 wrote:The interesting thing is that this affects a few percentage points of the population, the vast majority aren't sympathetic to their demands, and they think they have any type of power - yet these "protests" gets national attention. It is an entry level job for that reason, it is entry level. If we all had a living wage doing nothing more than interacting with customers, we'd all do it. The point of employment at these places is to get experience, develop a work ethic and leverage that to a better job. No one should aspire to be a 30 year McDonalds employee because it pays a "living wage". Idiocy.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Aug 29, 2013 4:31pm
I've worked worse, for $5.00/hour. The point is the labor involved is no where near that level of compensation. No one should be guaranteed a living....a lot of European countries have tried this...all it leads to is massive unemployment and sucking off of the government (read: taxpayer or bondholders) teat.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2013 4:32pm
I'd work there for the current minimum. But in a year, I'd be running one of the restaurants. In three, a district, in five a region. It's amazing how different an entry level job looks when one looks at it as an opportunity, and behaves based on that view.I Wear Pants;1493213 wrote:You'd work at Mcdonalds for $15 an hour?
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Aug 29, 2013 4:38pm
This!queencitybuckeye;1493217 wrote:I'd work there for the current minimum. But in a year, I'd be running one of the restaurants. In three, a district, in five a region. It's amazing how different an entry level job looks when one looks at it as an opportunity, and behaves based on that view.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Aug 29, 2013 4:51pm
If your dream to be a McDonlds worker ..You should be poor
If your dream to be a thief …………………… You should be shot
If your dream to be uneducated ………… You should look for a McDonlds to rob
If your dream to be a thief …………………… You should be shot
If your dream to be uneducated ………… You should look for a McDonlds to rob
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Aug 29, 2013 4:57pm
This actually made me lol. Thank you sir.queencitybuckeye;1493217 wrote:I'd work there for the current minimum. But in a year, I'd be running one of the restaurants. In three, a district, in five a region. It's amazing how different an entry level job looks when one looks at it as an opportunity, and behaves based on that view.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Aug 29, 2013 5:00pm
Lol this brings the lulz.Belly35;1493222 wrote:If your dream to be a McDonlds worker ..You should be poor
If your dream to be a thief …………………… You should be shot
If your dream to be uneducated ………… You should look of a McDonlds to rob
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Aug 29, 2013 5:14pm
Bullshit. You're not going from minimum wage to what's very likely a mid six figure salary in 5 years or less.queencitybuckeye;1493217 wrote:I'd work there for the current minimum. But in a year, I'd be running one of the restaurants. In three, a district, in five a region. It's amazing how different an entry level job looks when one looks at it as an opportunity, and behaves based on that view.
And the bolded part I was responding to said that he would gladly work for $15 an hour. Not more than that.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Aug 29, 2013 5:15pm
The key is franchising, and even that ain't easy. We (by we I mean my in-laws and us) own about a 10% stake in a local Dunkin Donuts franchise. On the one hand, there is income flowing through and we don't deal with managerial crap, on the other hand it cost a lot up front for just a super minority position, and we have to deal with the actual manager.Rotinaj;1493225 wrote:This actually made me lol. Thank you sir.
There is no such thing as easy money.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Aug 29, 2013 5:33pm
And it's hard to purchase a stake when you have no money to do so because you make $7.85/hr.Manhattan Buckeye;1493243 wrote:The key is franchising, and even that ain't easy. We (by we I mean my in-laws and us) own about a 10% stake in a local Dunkin Donuts franchise. On the one hand, there is income flowing through and we don't deal with managerial crap, on the other hand it cost a lot up front for just a super minority position, and we have to deal with the actual manager.
There is no such thing as easy money.
Now, I'm not saying that people don't do that because you see people who have done just that over their career and end up owning a store or something. But that's over the course of many years and not 5 like queencitybuckeye makes it seem.
You might go from being an inside worker to being a team leader/shift manager to being a store manager or assistant manager in the course of five years but you're very, very unlikely to go from that inside worker to a regional manager/executive.
Also, Dunkin is pretty tasty.