TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Aug 23, 2013 9:28pm
When an offense is doing nothing...it can make a manager look bad no matter what he does. For example, if Kipnis gets the bunt down...Francona doesn't have to try the steal.
Or...if Bourn and Swish get on and then the next 3 guys strikeout...we are bitching about how he never started the runners to get anything going.
Or...if Bourn and Swish get on and then the next 3 guys strikeout...we are bitching about how he never started the runners to get anything going.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 23, 2013 9:39pm
Put it this way, I am a huge advocate of the SB. But, not so much 3rd base when trailing. I thought it was a dumb move and it really looked like another walk to Santana was on its way, imo.TBone14;1490617 wrote:When an offense is doing nothing...it can make a manager look bad no matter what he does. For example, if Kipnis gets the bunt down...Francona doesn't have to try the steal.
Or...if Bourn and Swish get on and then the next 3 guys strikeout...we are bitching about how he never started the runners to get anything going.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 23, 2013 10:40pm
Listening to the radio broadcast, they said in 25 starts, Ubaldo has given up 3 runs or less in 20 of them. Which is sad that when he gives up three runs or less, they lose more than they win.TBone14;1490597 wrote:Thru 2 innings...Ubaldo on pace to give up 9 runs but also strikeout 27 hitters.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 23, 2013 10:54pm
Bingo....already in scoring position.Put it this way, I am a huge advocate of the SB. But, not so much 3rd base when trailing. I thought it was a dumb move and it really looked like another walk to Santana was on its way, imo.
Gotta lay the fault on Kipnis.....he was in a snooze all day at the plate. We are not talking Lonnie Chisenhall here....Kipnis should be able to get the ball down. Brantley also a snoozer today.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 23, 2013 11:04pm
If you think about it...this is nothing new for the offense the past week or so...the difference is that the pitching wasn't quite as good.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 23, 2013 11:38pm
Oh well. This is why I never expect a sweep. Just sets up for dissapointment, and realistically, they just dont come around often.
Take the next 2, salvage the series win and you are guaranteed to pick up games on Oakland/Baltimore, NYY/Tampa and Boston has the Dodgers...so a chance there as well.
Take the next 2, salvage the series win and you are guaranteed to pick up games on Oakland/Baltimore, NYY/Tampa and Boston has the Dodgers...so a chance there as well.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 23, 2013 11:51pm
Each are about 0-20 last few games.HitsRus;1490662 wrote:Bingo....already in scoring position.
Gotta lay the fault on Kipnis.....he was in a snooze all day at the plate. We are not talking Lonnie Chisenhall here....Kipnis should be able to get the ball down. Brantley also a snoozer today.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 24, 2013 2:57pm
John Adams celebrates 40 years of beating the rally drum....He will swing the drum in pregame...and try to hit a pitch.
Congrats to John..the games would not be the same without you!...story below.
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130822&content_id=57942092&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle
Congrats to John..the games would not be the same without you!...story below.
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130822&content_id=57942092&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 24, 2013 9:37pm
Looks like it will be a solid win for the Tribe. Finally got the offense going to couple yet another awesome start by a pitcher. 7.1 for McCalister with 2ER. Was 7.0 and 1ER, but a leadoff HR in the 8th made his line slightly worse.
I was about to type that its time for Chisenhall to be on the bench for the stretch run for Aviles/Raburn (and I still think that), and he promptly doubles down the LF line lol.
I was about to type that its time for Chisenhall to be on the bench for the stretch run for Aviles/Raburn (and I still think that), and he promptly doubles down the LF line lol.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Aug 24, 2013 9:42pm
Best offensive production in about a month.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Aug 24, 2013 9:48pm
Scrabble finishes it off for win number 70.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 24, 2013 10:04pm
Home:
Minny -1
Baltimore - 3
Royals - 3
NYM - 3
Houston - 4
White Sox - 2
Road:
Minny - 4
Detroit - 3
Atlanta - 3
White Sox - 4
Royals - 3
So, thats 16 at home and 17 on the road. 33 total. Can the Indians go 20 and 13? We all said 90 wins gets us in the playoffs. If they can survive the tough 9 game stretch...even at 4-5, and as much as it will suck while its happening, 3-6, I think we get have a chance. 16-8 is very attainable with the schedule after that (if we go 4-5). 17-7 is also very possible, just not as much wiggle room.
If we get to 90 wins and dont make the playoffs, well, tip your cap to those who make it. 90-72 is a heck of a year for this team. That is what I am looking for at the moment.
Minny -1
Baltimore - 3
Royals - 3
NYM - 3
Houston - 4
White Sox - 2
Road:
Minny - 4
Detroit - 3
Atlanta - 3
White Sox - 4
Royals - 3
So, thats 16 at home and 17 on the road. 33 total. Can the Indians go 20 and 13? We all said 90 wins gets us in the playoffs. If they can survive the tough 9 game stretch...even at 4-5, and as much as it will suck while its happening, 3-6, I think we get have a chance. 16-8 is very attainable with the schedule after that (if we go 4-5). 17-7 is also very possible, just not as much wiggle room.
If we get to 90 wins and dont make the playoffs, well, tip your cap to those who make it. 90-72 is a heck of a year for this team. That is what I am looking for at the moment.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 24, 2013 10:28pm
Kazmir really needs to pitch well tomorrow....let's get the series win!
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 25, 2013 1:05pm
Has Raburn played since he signed his new contract?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Aug 25, 2013 1:08pm
Glory Days;1491020 wrote:Has Raburn played since he signed his new contract?
He's hurt right now
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 25, 2013 2:15pm
Saw the best wave I'd ever seen at last nights game.
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Aug 25, 2013 3:02pm
1 -1, T6.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 25, 2013 3:22pm
When was the last time the Tribe didnt give up a base hit on an attempted sacrifice??? Its unreal.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 25, 2013 3:29pm
yeah, an inning later they were talking about it.Crimson streak;1491022 wrote:He's hurt right now
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 25, 2013 3:30pm
There is no reason Swisher shouldn't have thrown home on that bunt play. He needs to just make the play that is in front of him and not try to make some spin move to throw a guy out at first(not that he could have, Kipnis couldn't get there in time playing double play depth).Laley23;1491053 wrote:When was the last time the Tribe didnt give up a base hit on an attempted sacrifice??? Its unreal.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 25, 2013 3:33pm
Well, Cody Allen works out of it.
Probably the only reliever on the team who can get out of that jam without luck. Only guy with the stuff to get outs without runners advancing on 3 straight batters. Pop-up and 2 swinging Ks.
Probably the only reliever on the team who can get out of that jam without luck. Only guy with the stuff to get outs without runners advancing on 3 straight batters. Pop-up and 2 swinging Ks.
TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Aug 25, 2013 3:55pm
Can anybody step up and get a big knock????
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 25, 2013 3:56pm
Another houdini act by Allen. We should be losing big. One base at a time on offense....great.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 25, 2013 4:01pm
Jesus Kipnis. Indians have to have the worst fielding infield in baseball. At least the right side.
Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Aug 25, 2013 4:01pm
4 errors and 11 runners left of base.