ptown_trojans_1;1490041 wrote:Uhh, no. Read history and science.

That kind of thing doesn't fit into his agenda because education and learning are involved.

Heretic;1490094 wrote:That kind of thing doesn't fit into his agenda because education and learning are involved.

maybe you should ask Galileo, wise arse

BoatShoes;1490042 wrote:It makes perfect sense. The concept he is trying to convey is clear. One day he thinks people like QuakerOats will be shunned when they say Global Warming isn't happening. You may not like his particular manner of speech or you may disagree but it makes perfect sense. No need to exaggerate because you don't like Al Gore and think he's a loon.

Al Gore is a loon. It isn't an opinion, it is fact. Nothing he says makes sense...he just throws words together. Do you actually think he knows of a pizza place where homophobic words were spoken? Notice he didn't mention the article, or when, or why.

He is a charlatan. Tipper left him because he's nuts.

QuakerOats;1490150 wrote:maybe you should ask Galileo, wise arse

I'm not the one trying to compare "science" of 6 (give or take) centuries ago to today's science which has expanded and improved so much that it's as hilarious to compare them as it would be to compare riding a horse-and-buggy to a Formula 1 car.

Heretic;1490153 wrote:I'm not the one trying to compare "science" of 6 (give or take) centuries ago to today's science which has expanded and improved so much that it's as hilarious to compare them as it would be to compare riding a horse-and-buggy to a Formula 1 car.

Back to the thread, at what part of Gore's experience did he even begin to know about science? When he flunked out of Vandy Law?

QuakerOats;1490150 wrote:maybe you should ask Galileo, wise arse

What is oustanding is that you think climate change deniers are analogous to Galileo when in reality they're analogous to the geocentrists lol.

Manhattan Buckeye;1490152 wrote:Al Gore is a loon. It isn't an opinion, it is fact. Nothing he says makes sense...he just throws words together. Do you actually think he knows of a pizza place where homophobic words were spoken? Notice he didn't mention the article, or when, or why.

He is a charlatan. Tipper left him because he's nuts.

Even if we accept that he is a loon...everything he said in the article was pretty much coherent and you're just exaggerating like usual. You just don't like Al Gore and wanted to make a thread bashing him as a loon. No good reason to suggest that he didn't actually hear a story about that happening at the pizza place. Pure hyperventilation not unlike your rants about Barry O.

Manhattan Buckeye;1490156 wrote:Back to the thread, at what part of Gore's experience did he even begin to know about science? When he flunked out of Vandy Law?

Apparently as an undergrad he was influenced by some teacher who was a climate researcher. That is what I remember from his documentary. Also it is wrong to say he "flunked" out of Vandy law. He chose to leave to run for Congress in his dad's old seat.

I wonder who caused the EXTREME global warming that warmed all those glaciers in Ohio to disappear.

Heretic;1489833 wrote:I remember the good ol' days when the knock on Gore was how he was this really wooden guy with negative charisma. Ahhh...memories.

Speaking of wooden don't forget about "sex crazed poodle".

BoatShoes;1490159 wrote:What is oustanding is that you think climate change deniers are analogous to Galileo when in reality they're analogous to the geocentrists lol.

hilarious; we aren't denying that the climate changes ............. get in the game

QuakerOats;1490150 wrote:maybe you should ask Galileo, wise arse

Ohh, someone went to Google......

QuakerOats;1490205 wrote:hilarious; we aren't denying that the climate changes ............. get in the game

I am not, but I question we have no control on to limit the impact.
I suggest Gore is awful at speaking as he is so polarizing now.
The story shouldn't be the cause, it should be now that we know this is happening, sure the cause is debatable, but honestly what can we do to limit the damage?
How can be build up shoreline defenses, establish adequate storm drainage centers, do research into how extreme weather may impact trade, commerce, crops, and technology.
Those things we can look into so we can limit and hell maybe even stop some of the effects of the change.
I do not accept we cannot do anything to stop it. We can, and should.

ptown_trojans_1;1490211 wrote:I do not accept we cannot do anything to stop it. We can, and should.

I don't think any reasonable person regardless of politics denies that we have an obligation to do our best to protect our natural resources.

But this notion that the human species has become so powerful that we actually create global warming - er - I mean "climate change" is incredibly absurd.

Our planet has plenty of evidence that climate change (warming and cooling) has been going on long before the Industrial Revolution.

The Industrial Revolution has been around a mere couple centuries or so. And we just now have the technology available to measure our environment. Because of that new technology we now have folks like Al Gore who think that in that incredibly short time span, we can now point the finger of blame at ourselves and accuse humans for causing this next round of climate change.

It's all a big crock of cow pies.

The sun is far, far more to blame for the natural and on-going climate changes that have occurred long before humans became so self-important.

Climate change is simply a tool made-up by world-wide socialist tools to justify controlling energy production through fees and taxes. It's a not-so-clever ruse to facilitate wealth redistribution plain and simple. And if they can also lay claim to "saving the planet" in the process so much the better.

ptown_trojans_1;1490211 wrote:I do not accept we cannot do anything to stop it. We can, and should.

I don't think any reasonable person regardless of politics denies that we have an obligation to do our best to protect our natural resources.

But this notion that the human species has become so powerful that we actually create global warming - er - I mean "climate change" is incredibly absurd.

Our planet has plenty of evidence that climate change (warming and cooling) has been going on long before the Industrial Revolution.

The Industrial Revolution has been around a mere couple centuries or so. And we just now have the technology available to measure our environment. Because of that new technology we now have folks like Al Gore who think that in that incredibly short time span, we can now point the finger of blame at ourselves and accuse humans for causing this next round of climate change.

It's all a big crock of methane-emitting cow pies.

The sun is far, far more to blame for the natural and on-going climate changes that have occurred long before humans became so self-important.

Climate change is simply a tool made-up by world-wide socialist tools to justify controlling energy production through fees and taxes. It's a not-so-clever ruse to facilitate wealth redistribution plain and simple. And if they can also lay claim to "saving the planet" in the process so much the better.

ptown_trojans_1;1490211 wrote:I do not accept we cannot do anything to stop it. We can, and should.

I don't think any reasonable person regardless of politics denies that we have an obligation to do our best to protect our natural resources.

But this notion that the human species has become so powerful that we actually create global warming - er - I mean "climate change" is incredibly absurd.

Our planet has plenty of evidence that climate change (warming and cooling) has been going on long before the Industrial Revolution.

The Industrial Revolution has been around a mere couple centuries or so. And we just now have the technology available to measure our environment. Because of that new technology we now have folks like Al Gore who think that in that incredibly short time span, we now have the "evidence" to justify pointing the finger of blame at the eeeeevil fossil fuel industries for causing this next round of climate change.

It's all a big crock of methane-emitting cow pies.

The sun is far, far more to blame for the natural and on-going climate changes that have occurred long before humans became so self-important.

Climate change is simply a tool made-up by world-wide socialist tools to justify controlling energy production through fees and taxes. It's a not-so-clever ruse to facilitate wealth redistribution plain and simple. And if they can also lay claim to "saving the planet" in the process so much the better.

ptown_trojans_1;1490211 wrote:I do not accept we cannot do anything to stop it. We can, and should.

I don't think any reasonable person regardless of politics denies that we have an obligation to do our best to protect our natural resources.

But this notion that the human species has become so powerful that we actually create global warming - er - I mean "climate change" is incredibly absurd.

Our planet has plenty of evidence that climate change (warming and cooling) has been going on long before the Industrial Revolution.

The Industrial Revolution has been around a mere couple centuries or so. And we just now have the technology available to measure our environment. Because of that new technology we now have folks like Al Gore who think that in that incredibly short time span, we now have the "evidence" to justify pointing the finger of blame at the eeeeevil fossil fuel industries for causing this next round of climate change.

It's all a big crock of methane-emitting cow pies.

The sun is far, far more to blame for the natural and on-going climate changes that have occurred long before humans became so self-important.

Phoney man-made climate change is simply a tool made-up by world-wide socialist tools to justify controlling energy production through fees and taxes. It's a not-so-clever ruse to facilitate wealth redistribution plain and simple. And if they can also lay claim to "saving the planet" in the process so much the better.

There is global warming and global cooling, as there has always been in cycles (see Ice Age). There is NO man-made global warming. It is a liberal plot to transfer wealth from first world countries to third world countries. The earth gets warm and the earth gets cold and it has nothing to do with what we do. Gore is a dolt, as is the people that believe his bullshit.

ptown_trojans_1;1490211 wrote:I am not, but I question we have no control on to limit the impact.
I suggest Gore is awful at speaking as he is so polarizing now.
The story shouldn't be the cause, it should be now that we know this is happening, sure the cause is debatable, but honestly what can we do to limit the damage?
How can be build up shoreline defenses, establish adequate storm drainage centers, do research into how extreme weather may impact trade, commerce, crops, and technology.
Those things we can look into so we can limit and hell maybe even stop some of the effects of the change.
I do not accept we cannot do anything to stop it. We can, and should.

This I can agree with.

believer;1490314 wrote:Phoney man-made climate change is simply a tool made-up by world-wide socialist tools to justify controlling energy production through fees and taxes. It's a not-so-clever ruse to facilitate wealth redistribution plain and simple. And if they can also lay claim to "saving the planet" in the process so much the better.

The amount of fraud and conspiracy that must be true for this statement to be true is simply staggering. ZERO scientific academies/organizations hold your opinion.

The conservative position on AGW is exhibit A for the paranoid style....heated exaggeration, suspicion and conspiratorial fantasy.

TedSheckler;1490387 wrote:There is global warming and global cooling, as there has always been in cycles (see Ice Age). There is NO man-made global warming. It is a liberal plot to transfer wealth from first world countries to third world countries. The earth gets warm and the earth gets cold and it has nothing to do with what we do. Gore is a dolt, as is the people that believe his bullshit.

Why are all national academies of science bought off to transfer wealth to third world countries??? Why would 97% of scientists attach themselves to a fraudulent political agenda and risk ruining themselves??? Why are people who are supposed to care about empiricism so overwhelmingly taking part in a hoax that is so obvious to patriotic American conservatives???

90% of scientists are dolts but TedSheckler has got it figured out man! lol.

believer;1490314 wrote:I don't think any reasonable person regardless of politics denies that we have an obligation to do our best to protect our natural resources.

But this notion that the human species has become so powerful that we actually create global warming - er - I mean "climate change" is incredibly absurd.

Our planet has plenty of evidence that climate change (warming and cooling) has been going on long before the Industrial Revolution.

The Industrial Revolution has been around a mere couple centuries or so. And we just now have the technology available to measure our environment. Because of that new technology we now have folks like Al Gore who think that in that incredibly short time span, we now have the "evidence" to justify pointing the finger of blame at the eeeeevil fossil fuel industries for causing this next round of climate change.

It's all a big crock of methane-emitting cow pies.

The sun is far, far more to blame for the natural and on-going climate changes that have occurred long before humans became so self-important.

Phoney man-made climate change is simply a tool made-up by world-wide socialist tools to justify controlling energy production through fees and taxes. It's a not-so-clever ruse to facilitate wealth redistribution plain and simple. And if they can also lay claim to "saving the planet" in the process so much the better.

TedSheckler;1490387 wrote:There is global warming and global cooling, as there has always been in cycles (see Ice Age). There is NO man-made global warming. It is a liberal plot to transfer wealth from first world countries to third world countries. The earth gets warm and the earth gets cold and it has nothing to do with what we do. Gore is a dolt, as is the people that believe his bull****.

It is not a tool or vast conspiracy. I have many a friends I went to grad school with that are now doing climate change research. And, while we disagree on some things, they have wide aspects of their political views. One is a very conservative guy from southwest Indiana.
But, they do not let their agenda get in the way of their studies.
I feel, like Gore, the few bad apples have totally discredited the whole process.

Instead the focus should be on, ok, this is happening, now what? How do we prevent the damage of say another Sandy, or how can we prevent a wide change in temp. loss to drive up say the price of oranges at the grocery store?
It is not some wide conspiracy. Sorry. Just nerds doing science.

BoatShoes;1489989 wrote:He didn't do that. He compared the changing attitudes about race...the changing attitudes about homosexuality...the changing attitudes about tobacco, etc. to the changing attitudes about agw. He mentioned how it used to be ok to say a racist joke and now it's not. It's still cool to be like QuakerOats and not believe in AGW but soon it's not going to be was the point.

You're nuttier than he is. And it is impossible for you to look at anything with an impartial view apparently.

iclfan2;1490503 wrote:You're nuttier than he is. And it is impossible for you to look at anything with an impartial view apparently.

No, I am the one that is looking at this benign interview impartially. Al Gore is definitely off his rocker a bit these days (Massage my Chakra or whatever he said to the masseuse???) but the article was perfectly coherent and he didn't compare AGW deniers to racists in the way you're suggesting....he simply was suggesting that AGW denial would go out of fashion in the same way other worldviews that were once widely held have. Uncoicidentally it is the diehard republican voters ITT who are losing their minds over a relatively lame interview.

BoatShoes;1490478 wrote:The amount of fraud and conspiracy that must be true for this statement to be true is simply staggering. ZERO liberal scientific academies/organizations hold your opinion.

fify


God you are lost amid liberal intellectual group think.