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Jan 8, 2014 9:22 PM
Announcement likely tomorrow. Bloomgren or Cameron the 2 being thrown around.
Jan 8, 2014 9:22pm
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Jan 8, 2014 9:41 PM
Bama's OC will be in Ann Arbor, per Twitter.
Jan 8, 2014 9:41pm
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Jan 8, 2014 9:48 PM
They said it would be a wow hire.
Jan 8, 2014 9:48pm
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Jan 8, 2014 10:08 PM
Reading up, Bama people saying he was told to look for another position after the Auburn game and lane kiffen will be the OC at Bama.

Still a good hire for Michigan.
Jan 8, 2014 10:08pm
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Jan 8, 2014 10:08 PM
Hope he brings some people with him.
Jan 8, 2014 10:08pm
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Jan 8, 2014 10:41 PM
I'm not saying this isn't a good hire for Michigan but wouldn't Bama match Michigan's offer if they really wanted to keep him?
Jan 8, 2014 10:41pm
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Jan 8, 2014 11:01 PM
Jawbreaker;1564947 wrote:I'm not saying this isn't a good hire for Michigan but wouldn't Bama match Michigan's offer if they really wanted to keep him?
Yes.
Jan 8, 2014 11:01pm
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Jan 10, 2014 5:14 PM
So are UM fans "excited" about this hiring?
Jan 10, 2014 5:14pm
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Jan 10, 2014 5:47 PM
se-alum;1565629 wrote:So are UM fans "excited" about this hiring?
From what I gather, Borges has been the scapegoat for Hoke since Hoke has been at Michigan.
The hiring of Nussmeier means... "it ain't Borges."
Therefore, by default, Michigan peeps seem to be ecstatic because "it ain't Borges."
My question is... when Michigan goes Loss @ Notre Dame, Loss @ Michigan State (for the 6th time in 7 yrs), Loss @ Ohio State (for the 10th time in 11 yrs), who will be the scapegoat now since Borges isn't there any longer?
Will Brady make it thru another season?
If Brady is, in fact, let go, then isn't all this 'fapping' for Nussmeier now all a moot point?!
Jan 10, 2014 5:47pm
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Jan 10, 2014 6:29 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1565640 wrote:
My question is... when Michigan goes Loss @ Notre Dame, Loss @ Michigan State (for the 6th time in 7 yrs), Loss @ Ohio State (for the 10th time in 11 yrs), who will be the scapegoat now since Borges isn't there any longer?
Will Brady make it thru another season?
If these three things happen, prolly not.
Jan 10, 2014 6:29pm
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Jan 10, 2014 8:21 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1565640 wrote:From what I gather, Borges has been the scapegoat for Hoke since Hoke has been at Michigan.
The hiring of Nussmeier means... "it ain't Borges."
Therefore, by default, Michigan peeps seem to be ecstatic because "it ain't Borges."
My question is... when Michigan goes Loss @ Notre Dame, Loss @ Michigan State (for the 6th time in 7 yrs), Loss @ Ohio State (for the 10th time in 11 yrs), who will be the scapegoat now since Borges isn't there any longer?
Will Brady make it thru another season?
If Brady is, in fact, let go, then isn't all this 'fapping' for Nussmeier now all a moot point?!
That's an incredibly dumb way to look at it.
Jan 10, 2014 8:21pm
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Jan 11, 2014 12:54 AM
WebFire;1565671 wrote:That's an incredibly dumb way to look at it.
Not sure it is. Hoke got rid of the guy everyone was blaming, if it goes bad this year, can't see how Hoke isn't shown the door. Also, to me, it looks like they brought in a guy that is philosophically further away from the personnel they have than the guy they fired was.
Jan 11, 2014 12:54am
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Jan 11, 2014 1:11 AM
se-alum;1565752 wrote:Not sure it is. Hoke got rid of the guy everyone was blaming, if it goes bad this year, can't see how Hoke isn't shown the door. Also, to me, it looks like they brought in a guy that is philosophically further away from the personnel they have than the guy they fired was.
So you think their record may not be better next year, so they should have done nothing? They shouldn't make changes based on what MIGHT happen? Sounds like good advice.

Borges wasn't good. Scapegoat? Mmmm, only time will tell. But changes needed to be made. Nussmeier has exactly the philosophy that they WANT. They will work on getting the personnel there. That was really the same with Borges and Mattison as well.

And if the defense isn't better next year, they should be looking for a DC as well. He's been a big disappointment thus far. Or maybe they should keep him because they might lose.
Jan 11, 2014 1:11am
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Jan 11, 2014 1:12 AM
Hoke didn't want the new guy. AD did. So yes if they struggle, I'd say Hoke is on the very hot seat. But they should be better. played a lot of young guys.
Jan 11, 2014 1:12am
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Jan 11, 2014 1:16 AM
Midstate01;1565756 wrote:Hoke didn't want the new guy. AD did. So yes if they struggle, I'd say Hoke is on the very hot seat. But they should be better. played a lot of young guys.
Hoke did want the new guy. Approached AD about him. AD didn't even think Nuss would be interested.

Anyway you slice it, Hoke will be on the hot seat if they struggle. New staff members or not.
Jan 11, 2014 1:16am
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Jan 11, 2014 1:57 AM
I read Hoke wanted another guy. Can't remember the name though. It was on Michigans 247 page. I'll try searching for it
Jan 11, 2014 1:57am
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Jan 11, 2014 1:59 AM
Midstate01;1565756 wrote:Hoke didn't want the new guy. AD did. So yes if they struggle, I'd say Hoke is on the very hot seat. But they should be better. played a lot of young guys.
Not sure where you get your information but you're dead wrong man.
Jan 11, 2014 1:59am
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Jan 11, 2014 2:00 AM
@TerryFoster971: Brady Hoke wanted Stan Parrish to be Michigan's next OC. I am glad David Brandon won that battle.

Here's what was referenced
Jan 11, 2014 2:00am
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Jan 11, 2014 8:30 AM
Midstate01;1565761 wrote:@TerryFoster971: Brady Hoke wanted Stan Parrish to be Michigan's next OC. I am glad David Brandon won that battle.

Here's what was referenced
Parrish probably was considered. But one tweet from Terry Foster doesn't change the facts.
Jan 11, 2014 8:30am
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Jan 11, 2014 1:37 PM
The facts? How do we know that isn't a fact?
Jan 11, 2014 1:37pm
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Jan 11, 2014 3:14 PM
Midstate01;1565866 wrote:The facts? How do we know that isn't a fact?
I'll consider the AD and head coach as sources. You believe whoever you want. Fair enough?
Jan 11, 2014 3:14pm
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Jan 11, 2014 4:05 PM
WebFire;1565892 wrote:I'll consider the AD and head coach as sources. You believe whoever you want. Fair enough?
To be fair how often to the HC/AD come out and actually say. "I wanted the x guy, but so and so wanted Y guy, so here he is"

Of course they are gonna be supportive.

I liken this to when the Browns finally hire a coach this guy will have "definitely" been our number 1 target, and we are so lucky to have hime.


That being said, I'm not in touch with the Michigan program enough to know who's right and who's wrong.
Jan 11, 2014 4:05pm
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Jan 11, 2014 6:10 PM
WebFire;1565892 wrote:I'll consider the AD and head coach as sources. You believe whoever you want. Fair enough?
Did they answer that question? If not then you can't say it was fact.
Jan 11, 2014 6:10pm
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Jan 11, 2014 7:55 PM
Midstate01;1565959 wrote:Did they answer that question? If not then you can't say it was fact.
Dave Brandon said in the press conference that Brady Hoke made the decision to fire Borges and the decision to hire Nuss. Said he was surprised because he didn't know Hoke knew Nuss.
Jan 11, 2014 7:55pm
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Jan 11, 2014 8:05 PM
So they didn't ask about another coach. That's all I asked. So there is no fact either way. OK

Doesn't matter who they hired in the end, next year is Bradys make or break.
Jan 11, 2014 8:05pm