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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jul 30, 2013 12:27am
People don't realize how great a season Latos is having as blown saves are killing his W/L record.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jul 30, 2013 12:28am
Leake's like Locke of Pittsburgh, where the ERA is a lot better than the peripherals. With that said, both of tend to give good starts time-in and time-out and have the record and ERA to prove it. Bailey might have better stuff, better peripherals and better potential, but his consistency is not there to where you feel you can count on him to give a good showing pretty much whenever he takes the mound.
Guess it'd come down to whether you think your offense can back up a 6 2/3 IP, 2 ER sort of performance or if you want to gamble you'll get eight shutout innings instead of 4 IP, 6 ER from the inconsistent guy.
Guess it'd come down to whether you think your offense can back up a 6 2/3 IP, 2 ER sort of performance or if you want to gamble you'll get eight shutout innings instead of 4 IP, 6 ER from the inconsistent guy.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jul 30, 2013 12:31am
Cozart lucky he caught that soft liner earlier rather than having to throw it to first. Is his hip causing bad throws?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:31am
Well the Reds have 4 runs in the last 38 innings and have shown time and time again against elite pitchers/teams, the struggle to score more than 1 or 2.Heretic;1480095 wrote:Leake's like Locke of Pittsburgh, where the ERA is a lot better than the peripherals. With that said, both of tend to give good starts time-in and time-out and have the record and ERA to prove it. Bailey might have better stuff, better peripherals and better potential, but his consistency is not there to where you feel you can count on him to give a good showing pretty much whenever he takes the mound.
Guess it'd come down to whether you think your offense can back up a 6 2/3 IP, 2 ER sort of performance or if you want to gamble you'll get eight shutout innings instead of 4 IP, 6 ER from the inconsistent guy.
That's why I figure, as you said, if you're only going to score 1 or 2, gamble for the guy with a chance to dominate and if he blows up and allows 5 or 6 runs, big deal. You lose 7-2...
An L is an L.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:33am
Jeff Locke, Travis Wood and Mike Leake. 3 guys who are absolutely defying the odds this year...
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 30, 2013 12:33am
Not sure it's fair to say Leake is overachieving. He came straight into the Majors and has been pretty damn good. Leake don't have nasty stuff, but the dude gets it, and knows how to pitch.Azubuike24;1480059 wrote:Leake:
Hits/9 - 8.63
WHIP - 1.19
BAA - .255
K:BB Ratio - 2.6:1
Bailey:
Hits/9 - 8.34
WHIP - 1.16
BAA - .247
K:BB Ratio - 4.31:1
Numbers don't lie. Bailey, overall, has been better than Leake. Leake's vastly overachieving this year and I'm not sure any Reds fan can disagree with me. His ERA, is simply a statistical anomaly right now.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jul 30, 2013 12:35am
Jack Hannahan sucks.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jul 30, 2013 12:37am
That is why the team that is hot does so well in the play-offs, not what team had the best regular season.Azubuike24;1480097 wrote:Well the Reds have 4 runs in the last 38 innings and have shown time and time again against elite pitchers/teams, the struggle to score more than 1 or 2.
That's why I figure, as you said, if you're only going to score 1 or 2, gamble for the guy with a chance to dominate and if he blows up and allows 5 or 6 runs, big deal. You lose 7-2...
An L is an L.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:37am
Isn't this the truth.Terry_Tate;1480100 wrote:Jack Hannahan sucks.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 30, 2013 12:39am
Terry_Tate;1480092 wrote:Homer Bailey WAR - 3.2
Mike Leake WAR - 1.2
Case closed.
Can't find my bullets.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:39am
Hey, maybe MLB will let the Cubs, Padres, Giants, Mets and Marlins in the playoffs. The Reds should easily win the NL against those offenses.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 30, 2013 12:40am
Terry_Tate;1480100 wrote:Jack Hannahan sucks.
This...THIS we can all agree on.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 30, 2013 12:41am
Bad feelings on Chappy.
You guys wouldn't like me as manager. I would've used Chappy in the 10th yesterday and seeing Hoover look so good in the 8th, let him also go for the close.
You guys wouldn't like me as manager. I would've used Chappy in the 10th yesterday and seeing Hoover look so good in the 8th, let him also go for the close.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 30, 2013 12:42am
Izturis and Hannahan couldn't hit hs pitching right now.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:42am
Does Puig go yard on Aroldis?
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jul 30, 2013 12:42am
Jack Hannahan, a 33 year old utility player with a career .233 batting average has a 2 year deal with the Reds. Unbelievable.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:43am
Miguel Cairo is his agent.Terry_Tate;1480109 wrote:Jack Hannahan, a 33 year old utility player with a career .233 batting average has a 2 year deal with the Reds. Unbelievable.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 30, 2013 12:46am
Fuck
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 30, 2013 12:46am
Could there be a worse ending?
Yonder Alonso works a leadoff walk. Chris Denorfia hits a walk off.
See you guys tomorrow.
Yonder Alonso works a leadoff walk. Chris Denorfia hits a walk off.
See you guys tomorrow.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 30, 2013 12:46am
If chapman blows this....
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 30, 2013 12:47am
And he does. To mother fucking denorfia. Lol
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 30, 2013 12:47am
And you guys are talking about playoff pitching rotations...lol!
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 30, 2013 12:49am
Lol martys call was great. Its gone and the reds just keep on losing.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 30, 2013 12:49am
Also, this is what happens when you don't get your closer work. Pitching every 4 days doesn't cut it.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 30, 2013 12:50am
.at least after this weekend and getting destroyed by the cards we can start moving on to football.