
Crimson streak
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Jul 26, 2013 10:59pm
Raburn crushed that ball

royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 26, 2013 11:00pm
lol...fuck the bunt!
Good call Tito!
Good call Tito!

Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jul 26, 2013 11:00pm
That's why he should play every day and Mark Reynolds should wear out the butt of his pants riding the pine.Crimson streak;1479208 wrote:Raburn crushed that ball

royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 26, 2013 11:01pm
I think that's what all of us wantDr. KnOiTaLL;1479210 wrote:That's why he should play every day and Mark Reynolds should wear out the butt of his pants riding the pine.

BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jul 26, 2013 11:10pm
Three guys with great at bats in the 11th.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jul 26, 2013 11:12pm
Hits..where you at? Should have sacrificed right there.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 26, 2013 11:27pm
No telling the bunt wouldn't have worked also. But don't compare a veteran like Raburn with a "rookie" like Chisenhall.Footwedge;1479214 wrote:Hits..where you at? Should have sacrificed right there.
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Footwedge
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Jul 27, 2013 4:59am
I have no idea what the point is here that you are attempting to make. Are you saying a rookie should bunt but a veteran should swing away? LMAOLaley23;1479219 wrote: But don't compare a veteran like Raburn with a "rookie" like Chisenhall.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 27, 2013 7:27am
The argument made last time was that the bunt was/was not the right play based on who was batting, not because of percentages and stats. In that case, it was the same thing with Chisenhall up. I don't trust Chiz to not fuck up, so the bunt was the right move to me. I do trust Raburn to at least move the runners along, so swinging away was the right move.Footwedge;1479247 wrote:I have no idea what the point is here that you are attempting to make. Are you saying a rookie should bunt but a veteran should swing away? LMAO
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 27, 2013 8:01am
Laley23;1479251 wrote:The argument made last time was that the bunt was/was not the right play based on who was batting, not because of percentages and stats. In that case, it was the same thing with Chisenhall up. I don't trust Chiz to not **** up, so the bunt was the right move to me. I do trust Raburn to at least move the runners along, so swinging away was the right move.
Reps to you both, and you gotta' feel bad for Kluber...again!!!Dr. KnOiTaLL;1479210 wrote:That's why he should play every day and Mark Reynolds should wear out the butt of his pants riding the pine.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jul 27, 2013 9:14am
You could have, but probably the right call was made not only given the outcome, but the circumstances. A Raburn sacrifice would have brought up Brantley who would have been walked and now you are to the bottom of the order (8and 9 hitters) to deliver the win. ...ugh.Hits..where you at? Should have sacrificed right there.
Compleyely different situation when a sacrifice and a walk would have turned the batting order to the top.
The choice to bunt is is based on circimstances and the people involved.
Big thanks to Ron Washington for leaving in his relief pitcher in for a third inning...the guy's longest stint in 2+ years.

GOONx19
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Jul 27, 2013 10:25am


Dan Gilbert
Posts: 215
Jul 27, 2013 11:11am
I would have bunted also.royal_k;1479209 wrote:lol...**** the bunt!
Good call Tito!
Remember earlier in the year against Seattle with Gomes up. He tried to sac bunt before going 0-2 and smoking a walk off 3 run HR to win.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 27, 2013 12:40pm
The pitch prior, the infield was moving expecting the bunt. If you have faith in your hitter and he's a decent contact hitter....and you believe the infield will be moving on the wheel play again.....you swing away. That's what Tito chose to do. It was the right decision....this time.

TBone14
Posts: 6,383
Jul 27, 2013 1:38pm
I disagree with the decision.
It is like going for it on 4th down. The manager is judged on the decision based on the outcome...rather than the actual decision. If Raburn hits a grounder to the pitcher and he cuts the runner down at 3rd....we are MURDERING Tito on here. But he didn't. He hit a home run...so all of a sudden his decision was good?
Bad decision in my opinion. Great result. Bunt next time. The only way I could be persuaded...is that bunting takes the bat out of Brantley's hands because they would walk him and the Aviles and Stubbs are due up.
It is like going for it on 4th down. The manager is judged on the decision based on the outcome...rather than the actual decision. If Raburn hits a grounder to the pitcher and he cuts the runner down at 3rd....we are MURDERING Tito on here. But he didn't. He hit a home run...so all of a sudden his decision was good?
Bad decision in my opinion. Great result. Bunt next time. The only way I could be persuaded...is that bunting takes the bat out of Brantley's hands because they would walk him and the Aviles and Stubbs are due up.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 27, 2013 2:29pm
Exactly what Tito said postgame, so imo, good decisionTBone14;1479289 wrote: The only way I could be persuaded...is that bunting takes the bat out of Brantley's hands because they would walk him and the Aviles and Stubbs are due up.

BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jul 27, 2013 3:41pm
I have thought a lot about this and my conclusion is that I would also have bunted because I like the chances better with bases loaded and one out regardless of who is batting.
But, it's a "mute" point now and we are all happy with the result.
But, it's a "mute" point now and we are all happy with the result.

royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 27, 2013 3:48pm
The bunt was on. But after seeing Texas put the wheel play on they changed it up. He was actually supposed to slap it, but got a great pitch to hit.

royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jul 27, 2013 3:52pm
Going to a wedding, so I won't be able to see the game. But hoping Masty is nasty tonight.
Go Tribe!
Go Tribe!

BRF
Posts: 8,748
Jul 27, 2013 4:15pm
I believe the "slap it" was on the third pitch, but Raburn said in his post game interview that the pitch was past him before he could even try. And then the pitch came that made it all moot.royal_k;1479303 wrote:The bunt was on. But after seeing Texas put the wheel play on they changed it up. He was actually supposed to slap it, but got a great pitch to hit.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jul 27, 2013 6:33pm
Ranger's pitcher assaulted in downtown Cleveland.....
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/308148/4/Rangers-pitcher-attacked-while-walking-downtown
http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/308148/4/Rangers-pitcher-attacked-while-walking-downtown
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 27, 2013 7:30pm
Bourn with a lead off homer.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 27, 2013 8:10pm
Detroit up 2-0.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jul 27, 2013 9:26pm
Masterful job.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 27, 2013 9:36pm
Mr. Clean was nasty tonight. Smith looked like he gave up a 2-run bomb to Beltre, but it died on the warning track in left.
Perez on for the save and hopefully securing another Tribe shutout.
Perez on for the save and hopefully securing another Tribe shutout.