Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jul 11, 2013 10:32pm
I've gotta start the thread with this.
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2013/07/11/baker-to-stick-with-cozart-in-the-no-2-spot/
Dusty math and reasoning.
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2013/07/11/baker-to-stick-with-cozart-in-the-no-2-spot/
Dusty math and reasoning.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jul 11, 2013 11:41pm
The question is not at what spot Cozart has a better average, it is at what spot he kills you the least.
Do you intersperse the weaker hitters between your best hitters to try to score a whopping amount of runs, but have them take you out of innings resulting in many games with very few runs? Or do you bunch your best hitters and put them up where they can get the most plate appearances and score some runs more consistently? I'm a proponent of the latter, and I'd like to see how this line-up would work:
Choo
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Frazier
C
P
LF
SS
Don't bat the P immediately before the best hitters and handicap them often when the P leads off the inning in the 9th spot. Also if the 8th spot leads off and gets on, then the SS bunts him over and Choo likely gets on bringing up Votto with two on and one out.
Do you intersperse the weaker hitters between your best hitters to try to score a whopping amount of runs, but have them take you out of innings resulting in many games with very few runs? Or do you bunch your best hitters and put them up where they can get the most plate appearances and score some runs more consistently? I'm a proponent of the latter, and I'd like to see how this line-up would work:
Choo
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Frazier
C
P
LF
SS
Don't bat the P immediately before the best hitters and handicap them often when the P leads off the inning in the 9th spot. Also if the 8th spot leads off and gets on, then the SS bunts him over and Choo likely gets on bringing up Votto with two on and one out.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Jul 11, 2013 11:44pm
mhs95_06;1471397 wrote:The question is not at what spot Cozart has a better average, it is at what spot he kills you the least.
Do you intersperse the weaker hitters between your best hitters to try to score a whopping amount of runs, but have them take you out of innings resulting in many games with very few runs? Or do you bunch your best hitters and put them up where they can get the most plate appearances and score some runs more consistently?
I'm a proponent of the latter, and I'd like to see this line-up:
Choo
Votto
Phillips
Bruce
Frazier
C
P
LF
SS
Lol'd, but sadly I'd be alright with that lineup
Ironman92
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Jul 11, 2013 11:47pm
Not really wanting the pitcher to hit 7th....but one-upping LaRussa is always fun.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 12, 2013 12:18am
lol mhs you crack me up...batting the pitcher 7th?!
But at least you gave your reasons...Dusty just gives bullshit when asked why he has a guy not just with an average of .260 in the 2 hole, but an ON BASE PERCENTAGE of .260 in the 2 hole.
Fucking delusional that guy is.
But at least you gave your reasons...Dusty just gives bullshit when asked why he has a guy not just with an average of .260 in the 2 hole, but an ON BASE PERCENTAGE of .260 in the 2 hole.
Fucking delusional that guy is.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 12, 2013 12:19am
How bout just change the position order. Make LF the new #2 hitter. Can't be worse.
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 4:40pm
Cozart batting 7th.....WTF
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 4:41pm
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jul 12, 2013 5:00pm
Ironman92;1471796 wrote:
Wow
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jul 12, 2013 5:37pm
That lineup is actually what it SHOULD BE with those given players.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jul 12, 2013 7:55pm
BJ pulled a "Ludwick" -- tried to slide, but dug too deep with his knee. Ludwick dug too deep with his shoulder.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 12, 2013 7:57pm
Pretty nice first inning comes to an end with Cozart popping out swinging at the first pitch, fitting.
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mhs95_06
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Jul 12, 2013 8:03pm
Cozart out of the 2nd spot and all was well thru the 4th hitter -- just doing what they could. But the first pitch to Bruce showed he was trying to do too much, then he got a good breaking ball to hit and he wasted it, fouling it into the seats, then the DP that took the Reds out of a giant inning. Nevertheless the Reds got a 3rd run tonight, as opposed to not last night, when Frazier's scorched liner was played into a triple by BJ. But you can't fault BJ for going for it as the triple was no more consequential than a single -- it was the right thing to do to try for it.
se-alum
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Jul 12, 2013 8:21pm
Nice play be Freeman, then he immediately looks for someone to give an awkward man hug to.
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 8:23pm
Goodness....the pitcher, catcher and Jay Bruce were heading to the dugout. Lol
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 8:24pm
Big break for the Reds as Bruce doubles after the ump blew it.
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 9:10pm
Should I start every thread after I lose and then the next person loses.
I'm 15-7 and we're up 4-0
/jinxpowertester
I'm 15-7 and we're up 4-0
/jinxpowertester
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 9:47pm
In less than 2 games Atlanta has lost all 3 of their starting outfielders.....both Upton's out with leg injuries.
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 9:47pm
McCann bomb....
4-1
4-1
SportsAndLady
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Jul 12, 2013 10:20pm
That's a horrible call lol wow
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 10:20pm
I don't like Sam Holbrook.
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 10:42pm
Chapman
104 mph
103 mph (4x)
102 mph (3x)
101 mph (3x)
100 mph (2x)
Yikes.
104 mph
103 mph (4x)
102 mph (3x)
101 mph (3x)
100 mph (2x)
Yikes.
Ironman92
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Jul 12, 2013 10:44pm
Freddie Freeman had one of the best at bats I have ever seen....lefty vs Chapman
103, 104, 103 (fouled off), 102 up and in.....then goes and gets a 90 mph curve for a hit.
103, 104, 103 (fouled off), 102 up and in.....then goes and gets a 90 mph curve for a hit.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 12, 2013 10:45pm
Hmmm...the guy batting 2nd gets on base, and the Reds win. Back to Cozart in the two hole tomorrow.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 12, 2013 10:47pm
Also, was Chapman throwing a different pitch tonight? He threw one ball that had movement I've not seen from him. Possibly just a slider he didn't completely snap off.