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                                Jun 15, 2013 5:12pm
                            
                        He is +3. That is not REAL bad. That is better than average.vball10set;1458306 wrote:I'm saying when he plays bad (ie today), he plays REAL bad...and wtf does "when Tiger is not Tiger" mean?
Tiger not being Tiger is pretty self explanatory to me...Im not sure what you dont get. Im saying we are used to him just blowing people away when he plays well and like himself. So when he doesnt do that, it seems bad.
 
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                                Jun 15, 2013 5:12pm
                            
                        It means that people still think Tiger is as good as the old Tiger, even though hasn't played like it for years.vball10set;1458306 wrote:I'm saying when he plays bad (ie today), he plays REAL bad...and wtf does "when Tiger is not Tiger" mean?
 
                                                                Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 15, 2013 5:19pm
                            
                        Laley23;1458308 wrote:He is +3. That is not REAL bad. That is better than average.
Tiger not being Tiger is pretty self explanatory to me...Im not sure what you dont get. Im saying we are used to him just blowing people away when he plays well and like himself. So when he doesnt do that, it seems bad.
I've only caught small portions of each round but I believe he is +6 in the 8 or 9 holes I've watched. I've seen two chunked chips, 2 missed four foot putts and about 5 wrist/elbow owies during that time.
 
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                                Jun 16, 2013 9:09am
                            
                        
                                I said Tiger would struggle here and he definitely is, the one who really needs to get his shit together is Rory however. Don't give me this equipment change shit, he hasn't done a damn thing all season except for a few top 10s. IMO that's unacceptable since when he's been on he has totally blown the field away when he is on. Just very inconsistent, and for someone as good as he is that's gotta change
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 16, 2013 9:40am
                            
                        Now here's an explanation that works. Thank you.se-alum;1458309 wrote:It means that people still think Tiger is as good as the old Tiger, even though hasn't played like it for years.
btw, Laley, do you consider +9 (after a 6-over 76) "REAL bad"? :rolleyes:
 
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                                Jun 16, 2013 10:18am
                            
                        vball10set;1458437 wrote:Now here's an explanation that works. Thank you.
btw, Laley, do you consider +9 (after a 6-over 76) "REAL bad"? :rolleyes:
Based on what the entire field is doing, no.
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                                Jun 16, 2013 10:34am
                            
                        
                                I so badly want Phil to pull this out today, but I just don't see it. He misses too many of those short ones under pressure, and it has cost him a few opens now. Not to mention that everything is just lined up too well for it to actually happen. It's his birthday, Father's day, and he's leading the Open. If it seems too good to be true it usually is.
If he does end up collapsing I really hope it's early, because I can't take another Winged Foot where he just throws it away when he almost has his hands on the trophy.
                        If he does end up collapsing I really hope it's early, because I can't take another Winged Foot where he just throws it away when he almost has his hands on the trophy.
                                        
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                                Jun 16, 2013 10:42am
                            
                        Based on what our expectation of Tiger is, whether real or perceived, yes...and I would venture to say that he would say the same.wildcats20;1458440 wrote:Based on what the entire field is doing, no.
 
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                                Jun 16, 2013 11:17am
                            
                        
                                I don't believe Tiger will ever be the golfer he once was. But a lot of fans still view him as the best. He isn't as dominant as in years past. But, I would still bet on him when he's on.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jun 16, 2013 1:26pm
                            
                        
                                +12 thru 7...lol
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 1:46pm
                            
                        Lol, you literally just said what I've been trying to say. It isn't real bad...except when your comparing it to Tiger of old.vball10set;1458448 wrote:Based on what our expectation of Tiger is, whether real or perceived, yes...and I would venture to say that he would say the same.
                                        
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                                Jun 16, 2013 3:00pm
                            
                        Only I said it betterLaley23;1458495 wrote:Lol, you literally just said what I've been trying to say. It isn't real bad...except when your comparing it to Tiger of old.
btw, it's still REAL bad....just sayin'
 
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                                Jun 16, 2013 3:06pm
                            
                        When you said it, he was what? 3 over?vball10set;1458519 wrote:Only I said it better
btw, it's still REAL bad....just sayin'
That would be in contention.
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Jun 16, 2013 3:06pm
                            
                        
                                But it also doesn't surprise me if you hated Tiger...since he's black and all.
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 4:39pm
                            
                        
                                Jason day looks good today sitting at +1
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 4:44pm
                            
                        
                                Charl struggling on 6
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:06pm
                            
                        
                                Gonna be a fun finish I believe.
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:16pm
                            
                        se-alum;1458578 wrote:Gonna be a fun finish I believe.
It almost has to be....but I could see Rose winning by 3 as well.
Day is just killing himself right now.
 
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:17pm
                            
                        
                                Also....if they all fall apart a bit....Ernie at +4 in the clubhouse might be interesting!
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:18pm
                            
                        
                                Day chips in for bogey....so damn young and brash lol
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:18pm
                            
                        
                                Huge chip in by day there to only drop 1 shot
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:19pm
                            
                        
                                That was a nice shot by Phil. Would have been a great shot if it would have stuck
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:19pm
                            
                        
                                #9 is silly long par 3 but it is downhill. Back in high school during districts we played somewhere around Beverly/Marietta and one of their par 3's was 255.
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:24pm
                            
                        
                                Damn phil needed that
                            
                         
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                                Jun 16, 2013 5:26pm
                            
                        Ironman92;1458586 wrote:#9 is silly long par 3 but it is downhill. Back in high school during districts we played somewhere around Beverly/Marietta and one of their par 3's was 255.
What'd you shoot?