Will Zimmerman get a fair trial in the Travon Martin case?

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Jul 16, 2013 1:01 PM
Fab4Runner;1473262 wrote:Probably the part where it says, "If you think George Zimmerman is guilty..."

Shouldn't it say not guilty?
this. I assume it's not guilty right? But I also thought maybe the quote was you and the other stuff was her. confused lol
Jul 16, 2013 1:01pm
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Jul 16, 2013 1:10 PM
Ya fab was right. Sorry for the typo. On the phone.
Jul 16, 2013 1:10pm
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Jul 16, 2013 1:32 PM
Did anyone see Rachel Jeantel on Piers Morgan last night? Yea, me neither. But she said that she thought Zimmerman was a gay rapist and TM was homophobic. That's why TM jumped GZ. So it wasn't racial at all. It was gay-bashing and the perp died in the incident. After all, we do have a hate crime on our hands.
Jul 16, 2013 1:32pm
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Jul 16, 2013 1:38 PM
TedSheckler;1473286 wrote:Did anyone see Rachel Jeantel on Piers Morgan last night? Yea, me neither. But she said that she thought Zimmerman was a gay rapist and TM was homophobic. That's why TM jumped GZ. So it wasn't racial at all. It was gay-bashing and the perp died in the incident. After all, we do have a hate crime on our hands.
No doubt. So is it a hate crime because he would hate a rapist or a because he thought he was gay? Def a hate crime going on so I think they need to put TM on trial for beating up someone whom he thought was gay.
Jul 16, 2013 1:38pm
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Jul 16, 2013 2:23 PM
Fab4Runner;1473219 wrote:That's 15 months old. It's absolutely terrible, but it wasn't a result of the not guilty verdict.
The question is was any arrest ever made? Trial? Verdict?
I want Justice for Matthew!! No Justice No Peace !!
Jul 16, 2013 2:23pm
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Jul 16, 2013 2:43 PM
TedSheckler;1473286 wrote:Did anyone see Rachel Jeantel on Piers Morgan last night? Yea, me neither. But she said that she thought Zimmerman was a gay rapist and TM was homophobic. That's why TM jumped GZ. So it wasn't racial at all. It was gay-bashing and the perp died in the incident. After all, we do have a hate crime on our hands.
Comes as no surprise she didn't share that at the trial. And I think she may have it 100% correct.

And in that scenario, TM is no doubt tried as an adult. But, no, Zimmerman killed some "innocent kid".
Jul 16, 2013 2:43pm
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Jul 16, 2013 3:52 PM
Jesus this keeps getting crazier and crazier. The lawyers at my firm think it's ridiculous that it was even tried and 13 out of 13 said all predicted he would be not guilty... Pretty good for litigators lol
Jul 16, 2013 3:52pm
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Jul 16, 2013 4:07 PM
ohiobucks1;1473345 wrote:Jesus this keeps getting crazier and crazier. The lawyers at my firm think it's ridiculous that it was even tried and 13 out of 13 said all predicted he would be not guilty... Pretty good for litigators lol
C'mon, it was obvious to anyone with half a brain that Zimmerman's best lawyer may have been the DA as far as establishing reasonable doubt. Yeah, in that scenario this had no business going to trial. But we had indications of that since police wouldn't arrest, and the local DA wouldn't charge him...

The case was purely politically motivated. That said, I'm not sure the national attention it got was such a bad thing. It should force reasonable people to think carefully about their actions, finding themselves in the situation of either Zimmerman or TM.

I would also normally tend to side with going to trial in this scenario. While I trust the judgement of the law on whether they can get a conviction (or whether he may not be guilty), I think it is perhaps appropriate to go to trial when you use lethal force in self-defense BUT your ill-advised choices put you in that situation.

I also think Martin's family should go after Zimmerman in civil court so he will have to testify and we can finally get his side of the story under cross-examination. Based on comments from a few of the jurors, it's unlikely to win a civil judgement against Zimmerman. But if I'm family I simply want to see him on the stand.
Jul 16, 2013 4:07pm
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Jul 16, 2013 4:11 PM
Yea, if you watched the trial from a neutral prospective there was no evidence at all to convict. I honestly feel the defense didn't even need to present a case at all could have rested after prosecution was done
Jul 16, 2013 4:11pm
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Jul 16, 2013 4:39 PM
Wow, that juror also said initially she and 2 others favored acquittal, 2 wanted manslaughter, and then 1 was for Murder 2.

After reviewing the definitions and evidence they agreed on acquittal. But that's shocking after sitting thru the trial 3 wanted to convict, much less Murder 2.

SMH...I guess that jury was representative - 3 smart people, 2 dumb people, and 1 really dumb person.
Jul 16, 2013 4:39pm
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Jul 16, 2013 8:51 PM
ccrunner609;1473463 wrote:she said this???
The prosecution in this case should be disbarred.
Jul 16, 2013 8:51pm
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Jul 16, 2013 8:53 PM
ccrunner609;1473463 wrote:she said this???

Not from what I saw but I didn't watch the whole thing either
Jul 16, 2013 8:53pm
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Jul 16, 2013 8:54 PM
I did see Angela Corey called George Zimmerman a murder today
Jul 16, 2013 8:54pm
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Jul 16, 2013 9:36 PM
After watching Al Sharpton parade around in his ridiculous suits for the past several months, the verdict was extremely satisfying.

Is anyone else disturbed by Attorney General Eric Holder's insistence to bring Zimmerman "to justice" and change the laws of self-defense? While the whole ordeal is certainly tragic, based on the evidence that we have, on the night of the incident Mr. Zimmerman appears to have conducted himself in a manner that is absolutely congruent with the textbook definition of self-defense.
Jul 16, 2013 9:36pm
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Jul 16, 2013 9:49 PM
They don't want justice they want revenge. If someone found out where Zimmerman was living and decapitated him and his whole family, a very large portion of poor, uneducated, black people would cheer and claim justice has been served
Jul 16, 2013 9:49pm
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Jul 16, 2013 9:51 PM
gport_tennis;1473523 wrote:They don't want justice they want revenge. If someone found out where Zimmerman was living and decapitated him and his whole family, a very large portion of poor, uneducated, black people would cheer and claim justice has been served
Mob mentality.
Jul 16, 2013 9:51pm
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Jul 16, 2013 9:53 PM
gport_tennis;1473523 wrote:They don't want justice they want revenge. If someone found out where Zimmerman was living and decapitated him and his whole family, a very large portion of poor, uneducated, black people would cheer and claim justice has been served
Sadly, that is spot on.
Jul 16, 2013 9:53pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:01 PM
ccrunner609;1473534 wrote:I love how many hypocrites there are out there. Almost every black entertainer or some talking head on TV has claimed that GZ "profiled" TM cause he called him a fucking punk. I guess "creepy ass cracker" doesn't mean anything.
It's "cracka." She spelled it out.
Jul 16, 2013 10:01pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:22 PM
Omg boo hoo stop crying. And its not just blacks n the poor who have issues with this verdict. I know plenty of educated rich whites who do tooAnd there are finatics in all races ie westboro Baptist church ..just let it go
Jul 16, 2013 10:22pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:35 PM
gport_tennis;1473523 wrote:They don't want justice they want revenge. If someone found out where Zimmerman was living and decapitated him and his whole family, a very large portion of poor, uneducated, black people would cheer and claim justice has been served
Gtfo absolutely not. I would love to see a survey of your black friends on this post to see if that is what they would say about this post or if his family got decapitated. Would u post this on an email with your name on it and post it to your boss, mom,or local paper? I doubt it but sadly on this site someone agrees with it. Smh
Jul 16, 2013 10:35pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:36 PM
Gblock;1473569 wrote:Gtfo absolutely not.
You're out of your fucking mind, or lying to yourself, if you don't believe a large portion of the black community would cheer Zimmerman's death.
Jul 16, 2013 10:36pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:53 PM
gport_tennis;1473523 wrote:They don't want justice they want revenge. If someone found out where Zimmerman was living and decapitated him and his whole family, a very large portion of poor, uneducated, black people would cheer and claim justice has been served
A lot is just posturing and talking tough. Only the bangers would probably follow thru, and I'd guess most of them don't really give a shit.
Jul 16, 2013 10:53pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:53 PM
SportsAndLady;1473571 wrote:You'r
e out of your ****ing mind, or lying to yourself, if you don't believe a large portion of the black community would cheer Zimmerman's death.
He said decapitating his whole family and ill add I bet its not as large a portion as u mite think as far as violence..you could find plenty obviously. Majority no. Majority for some jailtime no doubt but people are acting like whites and other races don't feel that way too and there are plenty
Jul 16, 2013 10:53pm
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Jul 16, 2013 10:55 PM
Gblock;1473612 wrote:He said decapitating his whole family
I actually didn't see that part...if it was just Zimmerman, I think there'd be cheers
Jul 16, 2013 10:55pm