Indians at Reds - Game 2

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May 28, 2013 9:58pm
LOL....I'm not sure I've seen a worse catcher than Carlos Santana.
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May 28, 2013 9:58pm
Santana giving more runs than he is producing!
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May 28, 2013 9:58pm
Thanks santana
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May 28, 2013 9:59pm
Heyyyyyy
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May 28, 2013 9:59pm
About time we start cashing in w/ men on base tonight
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May 28, 2013 10:00pm
Suicide again?
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May 28, 2013 10:01pm
Now we are gettin em in!
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May 28, 2013 10:01pm
Santana gives the 4th, and opens the floodgates for the 5th and 6th!
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May 28, 2013 10:04pm
mhs95_06;1449424 wrote:The runner on 3rd is already toast if they catch the pop-up. There is already one out, so both runners may as well be toast. The defense can't use two toasts! Doesn't the "book" say that on a suicide squeeze with one out with runners on 1st and 3rd, that both runners go with the pitch? I thought these people claim they practice these things over and over in spring training.

LOL no
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May 28, 2013 10:05pm
Midstate01;1449425 wrote:No. You cant assume anything as a runner.
I don't understand why not. The runner on 3rd is assuming the bunt is going down, so there is nothing further risked for the runner on 1st to assume the same. Now if there are none out, maybe he plays it more cautiously to not risk a triple play.
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May 28, 2013 10:08pm
Zomg they hit choo! Intentional!!
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May 28, 2013 10:09pm
mhs95_06;1449437 wrote:I don't understand why not. The runner on 3rd is assuming the bunt is going down, so there is nothing further risked for the runner on 1st to assume the same. Now if there are none out, maybe he plays it more cautiously to not risk a triple play.

Because its stupid. Im not even reading your posts. The first sentence is enough for me to reply. You're using after the fact logic. Which makes no sense here.
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May 28, 2013 10:11pm
se-alum;1449426 wrote:LOL....I'm not sure I've seen a worse catcher than Carlos Santana.
That's why I have him in fantasy where there is no penalty for bad defense. That's also why I didn't have Brandon Phillips in years past, because there is no reward for good defense!
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May 28, 2013 10:11pm
mhs95_06;1449437 wrote:I don't understand why not. The runner on 3rd is assuming the bunt is going down, so there is nothing further risked for the runner on 1st to assume the same. Now if there are none out, maybe he plays it more cautiously to not risk a triple play.
Why would you give up an extra out if you don't have to? There was still a chance to score with a runner on 3rd?
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May 28, 2013 10:12pm
Both catchers botching defensive plays.
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May 28, 2013 10:15pm
Midstate01;1449440 wrote:Because its stupid. Im not even reading your posts. The first sentence is enough for me to reply. You're using after the fact logic. Which makes no sense here.
It is not stupid! It is a matter of a well coached team knowing the proper play before the sign is given!
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May 28, 2013 10:16pm
Whatever.
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May 28, 2013 10:17pm
mhs95_06;1449448 wrote:It is not stupid! It is a matter of a well coached team knowing the proper play before the sign is given!
Why would you give up an out if you don't have to?
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May 28, 2013 10:18pm
mhs95_06;1449448 wrote:It is not stupid! It is a matter of a well coached team knowing the proper play before the sign is given!
It's stupid. It's literally one of the more stupid things I've ever heard.

He runs, it's a double play. Period.
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May 28, 2013 10:19pm
Midstate01;1449376 wrote:Votto is such a bad base runner
And he is also a pretty bad base-running coach also!
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May 28, 2013 10:22pm
I didnt see whatever play you guys are talking about.

But if I am correct it is runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and a suicide/bunt that is popped into the air. If its a bunt, you dont just automatically run. If its a squeeze, you absolutely are running on contact. Whats the point of waiting?
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May 28, 2013 10:23pm
These Indians announcers are the biggest homers I've ever heard. They're still calling the Cozart line drive down the line yesterday a foul ball.
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May 28, 2013 10:24pm
Laley23;1449455 wrote:I didnt see whatever play you guys are talking about.

But if I am correct it is runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and a suicide/bunt that is popped into the air. If its a bunt, you dont just automatically run. If its a squeeze, you absolutely are running on contact. Whats the point of waiting?


I'm sure Choo was running, but was told to come back when the ball got popped up. mhs95 is saying that Choo should've kept running in spite of the popped up bunt and just taken a double play to end the inning.
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May 28, 2013 10:25pm
Laley23;1449455 wrote:I didnt see whatever play you guys are talking about.

But if I am correct it is runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and a suicide/bunt that is popped into the air. If its a bunt, you dont just automatically run. If its a squeeze, you absolutely are running on contact. Whats the point of waiting?

It was a high popped up bunt. Giving the runners enough time to stop and retreat. Then reynolds dropped it. MHS thinks choo should he halfway I guess
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May 28, 2013 10:27pm
se-alum;1449460 wrote:I'm sure Choo was running, but was told to come back when the ball got popped up. mhs95 is saying that Choo should've kept running in spite of the popped up bunt and just taken a double play to end the inning.
Was there a runner on 3rd? And was he running?

That is what Im confused about. Cause if there was, then Choo doesnt even matter. But I dont know the whole landscape.