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Mar 16, 2014 3:29 PM
3 fouls on UM trying to guard Payne in the first 1:30
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Mar 16, 2014 3:30 PM
If Stauskas could play any defense at all he could be the NPOY...he's awful
Mar 16, 2014 3:30pm
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Mar 16, 2014 3:31 PM
Payne just bullied that defender to get the ball back
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Mar 16, 2014 3:32 PM
Izzo is going to wear out Payne subbing him in and out
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Mar 16, 2014 3:33 PM
I just don't agree with all these fouls underneath.
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Mar 16, 2014 3:35 PM
Impossible to even play good defense in the paint anymore.
Mar 16, 2014 3:35pm
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Mar 16, 2014 3:40 PM
Gary Harris is so fucking good.
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Mar 16, 2014 3:42 PM
Still rooting for MSU to win by 24 and UM to get a 1 seed over UVA
Mar 16, 2014 3:42pm
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Mar 16, 2014 3:48 PM
Payne has done a good job drawing 17 fouls in 12 touches
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Mar 16, 2014 3:51 PM
If not for Stauskas the game would already be over
Mar 16, 2014 3:51pm
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Mar 16, 2014 3:52 PM
Ironman92;1591422 wrote:Still rooting for MSU to win by 24 and UM to get a 1 seed over UVA
They would still deserve it.
Mar 16, 2014 3:52pm
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Mar 16, 2014 3:53 PM
Mulva;1591429 wrote:They would still deserve it.
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Mar 16, 2014 4:00 PM
Michigan needs to do something other than shoot 3s.
Mar 16, 2014 4:00pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:01 PM
Mulva;1591429 wrote:They would still deserve it.
Not based on conference performance. The ACC was the better conference this year, especially at the top. The reason there were so many competitive games in the Big Ten this year is because there were no standout teams at all.
Mar 16, 2014 4:01pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:04 PM
Michigan is just letting MSU do whatever they want, on both ends of the floor.
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Mar 16, 2014 4:05 PM
reclegend22;1591438 wrote:Not based on conference performance. The ACC was the better conference this year, especially at the top. The reason there were so many competitive games in the Big Ten this year is because there were no standout teams at all.
BUT, even you said Virginia had a remarkably easy schedule.

Now, I agree that Michigan doesnt deserve it if they lose.
Mar 16, 2014 4:05pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:09 PM
Laley23;1591442 wrote:BUT, even you said Virginia had a remarkably easy schedule.

Now, I agree that Michigan doesnt deserve it if they lose.
Virginia did have the easiest ACC schedule and I do not refute that. However, Virginia took care of business in the ACC Tournament and beat Duke in the final, one of the teams they had only played once in the regular-season. That's all the confirmation I need to know that Virginia was the best in the ACC.
Mar 16, 2014 4:09pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:11 PM
reclegend22;1591438 wrote:Not based on conference performance. The ACC was the better conference this year, especially at the top. The reason there were so many competitive games in the Big Ten this year is because there were no standout teams at all.
The B1G was 9-8 head to head against the ACC, has a higher conference RPI (2nd vs. 5th), and is projected to get more bids (6 to 5). So the better conference statement is debatable at best.

Assuming a loss today, Michigan will still have 2x as many top 50 wins (10-5 record to Virginia's 5-4), and most likely 3 more wins against tourney teams.
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Virginia beat Syracuse, North Carolina, Pitt and Duke, the teams that finished 2 to 5 in the ACC, as well as everyone else in the conference but one. Virginia is a worthy champion of the best or second best conference in college basketball this season. That argument is up for debate with the Big XII.
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Mar 16, 2014 4:14 PM
Mulva;1591445 wrote:The B1G was 9-8 head to head against the ACC, has a higher conference RPI (2nd vs. 5th), and is projected to get more bids (6 to 5). So the better conference statement is debatable at best.

Assuming a loss today, Michigan will still have 2x as many top 50 wins (10-5 record to Virginia's 5-4), and most likely 3 more wins against tourney teams.
At the top, however, it's not debatable at all. Virginia, Duke, North Carolina and Syracuse are a stronger group of teams than what's at the top of the Big Ten. To that point, Virginia beat Wisconsin, Duke beat Michigan, North Carolina beat Michigan State and, for good measure, Syracuse beat Minnesota and Indiana in impressive fashion, destroying the Hoosiers.
Mar 16, 2014 4:14pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:14 PM
Glad to only be down 9 after that pathetic showing.
Mar 16, 2014 4:14pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:20 PM
Michigan plays little defense..If they aren't hitting all their 3s, they could get beat by someone early in the tourney.
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Mar 16, 2014 4:21 PM
reclegend22;1591449 wrote:At the top, however, it's not debatable at all. Virginia, Duke, North Carolina and Syracuse are a stronger group of teams than what's at the top of the Big Ten. To that point, Virginia beat Wisconsin, Duke beat Michigan, North Carolina beat Michigan State and, for good measure, Syracuse beat Minnesota and Indiana in impressive fashion, destroying the Hoosiers.
Wisconsin beat Virginia by 10.

Minnesota and Indiana, huh? That's like pointing out that Michigan beat Florida State and OSU beat Maryland.
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Mar 16, 2014 4:26 PM
Midstate01;1591453 wrote:Michigan plays little defense..If they aren't hitting all their 3s, they could get beat by someone early in the tourney.
I'd say they are average on defense. I think it's less about defense, and more about not doing anything else on offense when they are missing 3s. Like today. They won't do anything but hang around the perimeter.
Mar 16, 2014 4:26pm
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Mar 16, 2014 4:27 PM
Mulva;1591455 wrote:Wisconsin beat Virginia by 10.
Virginia did not beat Wisconsin, which is exactly what I meant but just didn't convey that thought clearly enough. Lol. My mistake on that.
Mulva wrote:Minnesota and Indiana, huh? That's like pointing out that Michigan beat Florida State and OSU beat Maryland.
The only reason I mentioned Syracuse's wins is because you pointed out that the Big Ten had a 9-8 head-to-head record against the ACC. Well, the majority of those wins came in games between teams that are irrelevant at this point in the season. Duke and North Carolina, who finished in third and fourth place in the ACC, respectively, each beat one of the teams in today's Big Ten final. I think it's more accurate to look at how the conferences performed against one another at the top than at the bottom.
Mar 16, 2014 4:27pm