Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason Thread 2013

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Jun 7, 2013 3:18pm
Be an interesting pick. I'm undecided on him. I'm mostly concerned with his disappearing act.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ben-mclemore
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Jun 7, 2013 4:09pm
COA I'm not as concerned with his lack of "takeover" mentality since we already have 2 of those Type A personalities (Kyrie, Dion) and maybe a third coming (Lebron ;)). We just need talent right now, and he's got some major talent. That being said, I'm okay if he's not the pick.
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Jun 7, 2013 6:45pm
Midstate01;1453995 wrote:@SamAmicoFSO: Cavs front office seriously dissecting possibility of drafting Ben McLemore with No. 1 pick, source says.
I would give them a hell yeah.
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Jun 7, 2013 7:01pm
Pretty sure the Cavs FO has said they are considering 4 or so guys with the #1 pick. All smoke.


Interesting that they arent leaking who they have worked out.
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Jun 7, 2013 10:09pm
Sam Amico knows nothing.
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Jun 7, 2013 10:43pm
ohiobucks1;1454188 wrote:Sam Amico knows nothing.
True. I'd say the best beat writer to go to for the Cavs is Lloyd at ABJ. I'd say the second is Windy even though he technically doesn't even cover us anymore lol
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Jun 8, 2013 12:20am
Pick6;1454210 wrote:True. I'd say the best beat writer to go to for the Cavs is Lloyd at ABJ. I'd say the second is Windy even though he technically doesn't even cover us anymore lol
us?
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Jun 8, 2013 2:37am
Commander of Awesome;1454251 wrote:us?
The Cavs*


Sorry general.
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Jun 10, 2013 3:24pm
The more I think about it I wouldn't mind Len with the number 1 pick. He doesn't have the upside of Noel but he has a very nice jumper and pretty damn good defensively. Basically he is a faster stronger and more athletic Z
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Jun 10, 2013 3:30pm
Crimson streak;1455406 wrote:The more I think about it I wouldn't mind Len with the number 1 pick. He doesn't have the upside of Noel but he has a very nice jumper and pretty damn good defensively. Basically he is a faster stronger and more athletic Z
Is he 200 lbs?
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Jun 10, 2013 3:46pm
Commander of Awesome;1455410 wrote:Is he 200 lbs?

7'1 255
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Jun 10, 2013 3:51pm
Also to add about Len. He pretty much abused Noel when they played Kentucky last year.
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Jun 10, 2013 8:47pm
Len is 3x the injury concern as Noel. If history has taught us anything, its to stay far far away from big men associated with the words "stress fracture"
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Jun 10, 2013 9:01pm
Len might be a good pro, but that risk isnt even worth contemplating about at #1.
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Jun 10, 2013 9:27pm
Wouldn't mind a way of trading down a few to get Porter and then move back up for Steve Adams.

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Jun 11, 2013 1:31pm
Listening to Pluto podcast's and he says if draft were today Cavs won't draft Noel #1 overall. Too scared of growth plate issue and lack of offense. Says he thinks Ben McLemore would probably be the pick. S&L, I'm sure you've said your thoughts on him already, but would you mind discussing him a bit more since you're the resident Kansas fan?
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Jun 11, 2013 1:54pm
Commander of Awesome;1456052 wrote:Listening to Pluto podcast's and he says if draft were today Cavs won't draft Noel #1 overall. Too scared of growth plate issue and lack of offense. Says he thinks Ben McLemore would probably be the pick. S&L, I'm sure you've said your thoughts on him already, but would you mind discussing him a bit more since you're the resident Kansas fan?

Ben McLemore is really, really good. 2 seasons ago when he was a freshman and suspended for the season, self called him the Most talented player on the team. Thats with an 2 all americans (1 npoy candidate). He's raw though. He's an incredible jump shooter but had trouble getting to the rim despite his leaping ability. The guy is an incredible dunker, one of the best I've ever seen at the collegiate level. No exaggeration.

My biggest complaint about him is he doesn't seem to take over games. It's strange because he is claiming that it was the system that held him back. Self says he gave him every opportunity to take over but he sometimes wouldn't. I believe self. I could see him on the sidelines yelling for Ben to shoot more.

I think he'd be a great addition to a team, just not sure that team is Cleveland. It would essentially push waiters to the 6th man which I doubt he'd like. I'm thinking if they're not going with Noel, I'd rather they pick porter or McLemore. Either one is fine with me.
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Jun 11, 2013 1:56pm
As for actual ability, he's a hell of a shooter. A high riser who will be a dunking highlight reel in Cleveland with kyrie tossing him lobs and assists. Excellent off the pull up. Sweet mid range game. Defense is to be desired. Aka, his defense is below average. I'm not sure how that will fit with mike brown.
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Jun 11, 2013 2:57pm
Too lazy to pull it up right now... How did he measure (height and wingspan)?
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Jun 11, 2013 3:58pm
Mulva;1456099 wrote:Too lazy to pull it up right now... How did he measure (height and wingspan)?
[h=2]23 - Ben McLemore[/h] [h=2]Kansas[/h]
  • Birthday: 2/11/93
  • NBA Position: Shooting Guard
  • Class: Freshman
  • Ht: 6-5
  • Wt: 190
  • Hometown: St. Louis, MO
  • High School: Christian Life Center
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Jun 11, 2013 6:37pm
Bill Simmons tweeted that he thinks we'll swap picks with the Magic and get Moe Harkless in return. He was the 15th pick last year.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/moe-harkless
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Jun 11, 2013 6:41pm
mucalum49;1456179 wrote:Bill Simmons tweeted that he thinks we'll swap picks with the Magic and get Moe Harkless in return. He was the 15th pick last year.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/moe-harkless

I would be completely cool with that
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Jun 11, 2013 7:00pm
mucalum49;1456179 wrote:Bill Simmons tweeted that he thinks we'll swap picks with the Magic and get Moe Harkless in return. He was the 15th pick last year.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/moe-harkless
Go down one spot and also get a player in return? Sign me up.
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Jun 11, 2013 7:02pm
Im in
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Jun 11, 2013 7:16pm
like_that;1456193 wrote:Go down one spot and also get a player in return? Sign me up.

Especially a guy who really showed potential at the end of the year