2013 NBA Early Entrant/Transfer Thread

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Apr 10, 2013 10:48am
The problem with Dieng is he's got an awkward shot and a slow release. He might make it because of his defense, but I don't see him ever being more than a 8-10 PPG scorer.
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Apr 10, 2013 10:55am
Azubuike24;1422738 wrote:The problem with Dieng is he's got an awkward shot and a slow release. He might make it because of his defense, but I don't see him ever being more than a 8-10 PPG scorer.

Marcus Camby
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Apr 10, 2013 10:58am
That's who I thought of, but didn't post it because in college, Camby was a much better scorer...

For a stretch, Camby was one of the best shot-blockers and rebounders in the NBA. While he's good at both, I don't ever see Dieng reaching that level.
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Apr 10, 2013 11:02am
Dieng wont be a star by any means, imo. But just watch some NBA games and you can see how he would easily find a roster spot for 10 years on athleticism and rebounding/defense alone. I mean, Josh McRoberts was starting for the freaking Pacers in the playoffs 2 years ago!!!!!
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Apr 10, 2013 12:00pm
Russ Smith
Chane Behanan
Gorgui Dieng
Phil Pressey
Ricardo Ledo
Victor Oladipo
Cody Zeller

More to come
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Apr 10, 2013 2:58pm
Azubuike24;1422819 wrote:Russ Smith
Chane Behanan
Gorgui Dieng
Phil Pressey
Ricardo Ledo
Victor Oladipo
Cody Zeller

More to come
Is Phil Pressey serious??
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Apr 10, 2013 3:00pm
se-alum;1422926 wrote:Is Phil Pressey serious??

Yes
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Apr 10, 2013 3:29pm
wildcats20;1422927 wrote:Yes
I'd be surprised if he got drafted.
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Apr 10, 2013 3:46pm
Michael Carter Williams
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Apr 10, 2013 3:59pm
Ben McLemore, I forgot to add him from yesterday.
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Apr 10, 2013 4:57pm
I think MCW is a bust waiting to happen. Every time I watched Syracuse play, he never impressed me.
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Apr 10, 2013 4:59pm
Hb31187;1423031 wrote:I think MCW is a bust waiting to happen. Every time I watched Syracuse play, he never impressed me.
I agree. I am completely underwhelmed by the talent as a whole this year in CBB. Even Burke had some games where he looked really bad.
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Apr 11, 2013 8:43am
se-alum;1422926 wrote:Is Phil Pressey serious??
I want to know which drugs Tony Snell is on, and then I want to start selling them.

Same with Pressey.
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Apr 11, 2013 8:49am
I'm not sure what to think about the silence of UNC's trio thus far. I think it means that they -- at least McAdoo -- are much closer to leaving than coming back, opposite of what Roy Williams believes (or wants them to believe). They may all very well come back, but the longer they wait, the harder the decision obviously has been for each of them.

Here's to them all leaving and Wiggins combusting spontaneously.
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Apr 11, 2013 10:21am
If I'm a guy on the fence, why not wait?

I'd rather wait until the very last moment to know the entire field of talent I'm competing against.

IMO, the guys who declared in March, it wasn't even a decision...they were gone regardless of other guys who declared or projected stock.
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Apr 11, 2013 2:28pm
reclegend22;1423303 wrote:I want to know which drugs Tony Snell is on, and then I want to start selling them.

Same with Pressey.
My thoughts on guys like Snell and Pressey, they know they aren't going to go any higher in next years draft, and they want no part of staying in school an extra year, so they take a crack at the draft, then pack up and head to Europe, where they'll make a pretty good living playin' ball.
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Apr 11, 2013 5:15pm
Hard to blame Snell.

The best team he'll ever play on lost in the first round to Harvard.
His coach left for another job.

Lets also realize, a lot of Juniors, barring any academic setbacks, can probably graduate with a few credit hours, or are already graduating. These guys don't take summers off like normal students, so that's basically 3 extra semesters of credits you can get if you just take even a few classes over the summer.

If I'm going to graduate or just a few credits from a degree, why spend another entire year there unless that's your true aspiration?
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Apr 11, 2013 5:16pm
Snell made a good move, not sure why anyone is saying he didnt.
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Apr 11, 2013 7:37pm
reclegend22;1423306 wrote:I'm not sure what to think about the silence of UNC's trio thus far. I think it means that they -- at least McAdoo -- are much closer to leaving than coming back, opposite of what Roy Williams believes (or wants them to believe). They may all very well come back, but the longer they wait, the harder the decision obviously has been for each of them.

Here's to them all leaving and Wiggins combusting spontaneously.
You're setting yourself up for disappointment. :D

At least, I think you are.
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Apr 12, 2013 9:11am
Laley23;1423649 wrote:Snell made a good move, not sure why anyone is saying he didnt.
He won't get drafted, but he wouldn't have got drafted next year, either, so I guess you're right. He'll be playing ball in Uzbekistan with Quincy Douby.
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Apr 12, 2013 9:15am
ironman02;1423743 wrote:You're setting yourself up for disappointment. :D

At least, I think you are.
As long as you don't get Wiggins -- there's apparently some five-year-old hoops guru on Jayhawk.com saying you won't, so I am taking at least some comfort in that -- I won't mind if all of UNC's guys come back. Duke will be loaded next year and it would be great for the rivalry if both teams were in top form.

If you get Wiggins, though, I'll also embrace it. Parker vs. Wiggins would be a show.
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Apr 12, 2013 2:40pm
reclegend22;1423912 wrote:He won't get drafted, but he wouldn't have got drafted next year, either, so I guess you're right. He'll be playing ball in Uzbekistan with Quincy Douby.
NBA Draft Net has him going 2nd round, 39th overall, which is what I would anticipate.

But you hit on my main point. He cant improve his stock at all. Team will be worse and the coach will be ne. No way do you want to spend a single year in a situation like that after the season your team just had. Cut your losses and move on with your life, either in the NBA or in Europe...whats the reason for staying in college. With a bad year team wise, all I see him doing is falling even further in the draft.
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Apr 12, 2013 3:11pm
Laley23;1424231 wrote:NBA Draft Net has him going 2nd round, 39th overall, which is what I would anticipate.

But you hit on my main point. He cant improve his stock at all. Team will be worse and the coach will be ne. No way do you want to spend a single year in a situation like that after the season your team just had. Cut your losses and move on with your life, either in the NBA or in Europe...whats the reason for staying in college. With a bad year team wise, all I see him doing is falling even further in the draft.
Good points. I was too concentrated on Snell's draft stock and not really taking into consideration any of those extenuating circumstances -- his coach leaving, team not being as good, etc. -- which, when taken as a whole, do rationalize his jump.

He wasn't even listed at the time he announced. I suspect if a few more high-profile guys go pro, Snell will be at high risk for dropping off the board. I have nothing against the kid, though, and hope he makes it.
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Apr 12, 2013 4:21pm
PJ Hairston is coming back to Chapel Hill.

Thank you Jesus.
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Apr 12, 2013 5:30pm
wildcats20;1424311 wrote:PJ Hairston is coming back to Chapel Hill.

Thank you Jesus.
The fact that he announced on his own today had me a little worried, but apparently his family was tired of being hounded and his mother went ahead and spilled the beans. McAdoo's grandmother passed away this week, so he was holding off until next week. Sounds like there will be a formal announcement from the university, most likely on Monday, where all three will announce their intentions. Should be good news for Carolina fans.