SportsAndLady
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Apr 14, 2013 9:01pm
Excited for this episode
Automatik
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Apr 14, 2013 9:08pm
Yes sir! I gotta wait til around 10:15ish, when it hits HBO Go.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 14, 2013 10:04pm
lol damn..
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gut
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Apr 15, 2013 2:25am
The first 59 minutes was pretty slow an uneventful (even then, still the best show on TV). Never any filler with this one, although technically it was only 53 minutes (which is still significantly more than the typical 1-hr network drama).
I thought there were a couple subtle things that were just great about this episode - right from the beginning with the arrow, and then the chairs. And the "knighting" was classic - wait a minute, you were so good you got it for free?!? - sit down, tell us more. Ending was pretty crazy.
Kaelisi is growing on me, even if she is a complete religious cult nut job.
I thought there were a couple subtle things that were just great about this episode - right from the beginning with the arrow, and then the chairs. And the "knighting" was classic - wait a minute, you were so good you got it for free?!? - sit down, tell us more. Ending was pretty crazy.
Kaelisi is growing on me, even if she is a complete religious cult nut job.
TedSheckler
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Apr 15, 2013 5:40am
They barely even touched on Theon's torture. In the books he was brutally tortured and was on the level of a dog.
It will be fun to watch Kalesi, seeing as she...
[SP]understood everything that guy has been saying.[/SP]
It will be fun to watch Kalesi, seeing as she...
[SP]understood everything that guy has been saying.[/SP]
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gut
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Apr 15, 2013 5:43am
I kind of caught that, sort of thought it...but didn't really string it together.TedSheckler;1425743 wrote: It will be fun to watch Kalesi, seeing as she...
Thanks
Automatik
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Apr 15, 2013 9:21am
FUUU Jaimie!!
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gut
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Apr 15, 2013 3:14pm
So was Jaimie rescuing the bull dyke purely motivated by self-interest, or did he have a legitimate moment of humanity?
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Apr 15, 2013 3:27pm
In the books it was purely out of humanity - haven't seen the episode yet (it is on here tonight). In the book Jaime was actually on the way back to KL and forced the Bolton group to go back to rescue her.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 15, 2013 8:05pm
I thought he did it because she was worth a lot of jewels (can't remember the specific type).gut;1425951 wrote:So was Jaimie rescuing the bull dyke purely motivated by self-interest, or did he have a legitimate moment of humanity?
Automatik
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Apr 15, 2013 10:20pm
I'm guessing he was just trying to get on her good side so they could possibly escape.
But then he got what he got, so who knows?
But then he got what he got, so who knows?
TedSheckler
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Apr 15, 2013 10:20pm
Sapphire
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gut
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Apr 15, 2013 10:25pm
My thoughts were she really gained his respect when they dueled. Add to the fact she refused to be bought by him. For all his faults, I think he admires her loyalty and skill. And I don't think he felt she deserved to be dishonored in such fashion.Automatik;1426406 wrote:I'm guessing he was just trying to get on her good side so they could possibly escape.
Speaking of dishonor, WTF with buttcheeks in the woods? Seemed a little too eager to "torture" the guy.
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Apr 16, 2013 4:07am
Again in the books he is maimed prior to saving Brienne. He is maimed by order of Vargo Hoat and the Bloody Mummers (who I presume aren't in the tv show), then is released with one of the Boltons to be taken back to Kings Landing. On the way back he has a loopy dream involving him, Cersei and Brienne and orders his escort to take him back. He sees Brienne in a pit fighting a bear, jumps in and helps her fight until the Boltons kill the bear with arrows.
Automatik
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Apr 16, 2013 7:35am
Why do people continually bring up the books when discussing the show? :thumbdown:
Heretic
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Apr 16, 2013 7:42am
Because the show is derived from the books?Automatik;1426535 wrote:Why do people continually bring up the books when discussing the show? :thumbdown:
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Apr 16, 2013 7:54am
And because since they can't possibly show everything from the books (or else it would require a budget a multiple of the LOTR movies) HBO has to cut some stuff out.Heretic;1426536 wrote:Because the show is derived from the books?
Jaime's action on behalf of Brienne and maiming is a huge transformation for him. Both the books and tv show will evidence this. It's just that they had to cut out a lot in order to keep the show on budget. The producers have to cut a lot of stuff but the themes are the same, at least up to this point. The producers aren't going to insist on Jaime continuing to be a dick when it affects his character arc going forward.
So no, he didn't act just in self-interest.
SportsAndLady
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Apr 16, 2013 8:24am
Derived, yes. But every question we pose on here shouldn't be answered by "well, in the books..."Heretic;1426536 wrote:Because the show is derived from the books?
The show is clearly different than the books, so while it can be a nice guide to follow, it shouldn't be the answer to everything.
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Apr 16, 2013 8:28am
Agreed, but with the main characters everything has been in place, just some changes here or there (mostly deleting characters - just too expensive to have that large of a cast). Some for the better. Tywin and Arya never met in the books in the manner in the adaptation, but those were one of the strongest scenes in season 2. That's one of the situations where a film adaptation got it better than the books.
Automatik
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Apr 16, 2013 9:30am
The thread is about the show. People who have read the books fucking LOVE to point out the differences, complain, whine, etc about the show compared to the books....sometimes spoiling things for others. I haven't read the books, so I don't care. It's annoying.Heretic;1426536 wrote:Because the show is derived from the books?
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Apr 16, 2013 9:36am
Then don't ask (or respond to) questions if you don't want them answered.
I think the show is a very good adaptation, but it leaves a lot of stuff out. Granted it due to the budget but if there are questions that aren't evident from the film, it shows the problems with the screenwriting. I haven't seen the scene in question yet, but it is a very important event for Jaime going forward. Either the producers are going to clear it up later, or they are just going to sweep it under the table and make Jaime's motivations going forward more unclear.
I think the show is a very good adaptation, but it leaves a lot of stuff out. Granted it due to the budget but if there are questions that aren't evident from the film, it shows the problems with the screenwriting. I haven't seen the scene in question yet, but it is a very important event for Jaime going forward. Either the producers are going to clear it up later, or they are just going to sweep it under the table and make Jaime's motivations going forward more unclear.
Automatik
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Apr 16, 2013 9:40am
You completely missed my point.
Moving along...
Moving along...
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Apr 16, 2013 10:50am
And you missed mine. I answered gut's question. Not yours.
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Gblock
Apr 17, 2013 7:39am
i would rather have someone answer the question from the book than take wild guesses or answering who knows?
SportsAndLady
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Apr 17, 2013 8:21am
I definitely do NOT want the answers from the book...what the hell's the fun in that?