Mohican00;1422869 wrote:

Too much yeast in that dough?

WebFire;1422140 wrote:His body of work for the season wasn't that great either.

I think he could have a lot to gain. I think the only reason he does leave is the weaker draft this year. But with Burke gone next year, he can come back and be the leader of the team, have a good year, and be a legit first rounder.

Question is, how often does a Jr. come back and improve his draft stock after his Sr. year? Typically you are what you are by your Jr. year, and NBA teams will take a young guy with potential over a 22 year old.

se-alum;1422923 wrote:Question is, how often does a Jr. come back and improve his draft stock after his Sr. year? Typically you are what you are by your Jr. year, and NBA teams will take a young guy with potential over a 22 year old.

Skill wise, you're probably right. I think he could improve just on the leadership alone. I think he would be looked at more positively.

IDK. Won't be surprised with whichever path he chooses.

Heretic;1422788 wrote:It was a horribly horrible call. A total potato-counting moment by the ref there.

Worst officiated basketball game I've seen in a long time. The missed goal-tending might have been even worse than this one.

gut;1423038 wrote:Worst officiated basketball game I've seen in a long time. The missed goal-tending might have been even worse than this one.

Watch more college basketball. A lot more.

Laley23;1423265 wrote:Watch more college basketball. A lot more.

From start to finish, it was one of the worst I've seen. I watch a lot of basketball.

I thought it was pretty on par with the officiatiing in the tourney as a whole.

LJ;1423338 wrote:I thought it was pretty on par with the officiatiing in the tourney as a whole.

I'm leaning this way as well.

LJ;1423338 wrote:I thought it was pretty on par with the officiatiing in the tourney as a whole.

Yeah I would agree with this.

But I'm interested in sonofanump's opinion I believe he is an expert is this stuff.

Pretty on-par with officiating all season.

1. Way too many incorrect charge calls. The majority of the time, you could justify a block. That's a fact.
2. The application of the flagrant 1 calls is suspect, mostly because it takes too long to determine.

Lets be real. College basketball is a really rough game. It has become much less about execution and skill and more about foul manipulation and basically, what you can get away with. Combine that with some absolutely awful fundamentals (low bball IQ and terrible foul shooting), you get some rather ugly games. It isn't necessarily the style of a team or coach (although some are more prone than others), but a result of the development of the sport from an early age.

A team like Louisville winning the title only makes it worse. I don't care if you love them, hate them, don't care about them, etc. Their style of horrendous from an aesthetic perspective. They basically hack and foul so often, that you couldn't conceivably call them all. They built a team and developed a system that executed this perfectly. While I don't see it working from year to year with the turnover, I do see other coaches taking this approach and recruiting as such. Letting skills, fundamentals and IQ take a back seat to conditioning, quickness and stamina.

Laley23;1423265 wrote:Watch more college basketball. A lot more.

Well let's say worst officiated tourney game I've seen in a long time. It was really, really bad - horrible calls on the block and goaltend and that's just for starters.

Iliketurtles;1423369 wrote:Yeah I would agree with this.

But I'm interested in sonofanump's opinion I believe he is an expert is this stuff.

Not at all. I don't understand basketball officiating any more than the common fan. ETB is the basketball expert.

Fly4Fun;1422309 wrote:(before the moderators delete most of it).

You probably get off to that.

Azubuike24;1423383 wrote:Pretty on-par with officiating all season.

1. Way too many incorrect charge calls. The majority of the time, you could justify a block. That's a fact.
2. The application of the flagrant 1 calls is suspect, mostly because it takes too long to determine.

Lets be real. College basketball is a really rough game. It has become much less about execution and skill and more about foul manipulation and basically, what you can get away with. Combine that with some absolutely awful fundamentals (low bball IQ and terrible foul shooting), you get some rather ugly games. It isn't necessarily the style of a team or coach (although some are more prone than others), but a result of the development of the sport from an early age.

A team like Louisville winning the title only makes it worse. I don't care if you love them, hate them, don't care about them, etc. Their style of horrendous from an aesthetic perspective. They basically hack and foul so often, that you couldn't conceivably call them all. They built a team and developed a system that executed this perfectly. While I don't see it working from year to year with the turnover, I do see other coaches taking this approach and recruiting as such. Letting skills, fundamentals and IQ take a back seat to conditioning, quickness and stamina.

That's old style Big East basketball, the way Georgetown used to play. Hack and slap defense, theory was foul continuously they can't call them all. The officiating was pretty much on par with the rest of the season.

Azubuike24 wrote:A team like Louisville winning the title only makes it worse. I don't care if you love them, hate them, don't care about them, etc. Their style of horrendous from an aesthetic perspective. They basically hack and foul so often, that you couldn't conceivably call them all.

Pulitzer.

Not really. There's a clear grammar error in there...

Azubuike24;1424057 wrote:Not really. There's a clear grammar error in there...

Originally Posted by Azubuike24
A team like Louisville winning the title only makes it worse. I don't care if you love them, hate them, don't care about them, etc. Their style of play is horrendous from an aesthetic perspective as they basically hack and foul so often, you couldn't possibly call them all.

Better?

:laugh: