sleeper;1396487 wrote:Distrust, sure; superiority? No.

Perhaps if we focused on treating all people the same regardless of skin color, religion, gender, age, etc. we'd be much better off. But no, we have to have special categories for everyone; divide and conquer.

sleeper;1396475 wrote:I'm aware of it and I don't disagree. Assuming that this is applied across all races, it's effectively neutralized for all races. Some will get the benefit with one race and the other with another race. In short, I don't have a problem with it.

And perhaps if black people actually had to work for things in life rather than having everything being handed to them based on the color of the skin, maybe more companies would be willing to promote them to management positions.

Fly4Fun;1396493 wrote:Where do you think it grows from? I was just explaining the initial reasoning. Once a population isolates itself and decides to not trust another because they are different, the initial feelings of distrust can change over time. And I guess you would be right in saying that is society taught instead of instinct. But I think the original basis for these society taught feelings of superiority or hate are based off the instinct to not trust, so it is a behavior that we have to work to correct.

Pick6;1396485 wrote:just stating the obvious: ETB started this thread because he was passed up by a chick in refereeing.

Gblock;1396496 wrote:what do see as handed to black people besides a few scholarships and a few state/federal jobs?

• Preferential treatment in receiving aid and acceptance letters to college.
• Preferential treatment in hiring practices since companies don't want to be sued.
• Preferential treatment in winning contracts(one of my clients has to subcontract with at least one woman owned company and one minority owned company).
• Preferential treatment in court cases(Trayvon Martin anyone? The race baiting alone was a media firestorm)
• "The Race Card"

Gblock;1396505 wrote:well once you factor in natural unconsious bias and the fact that werent you one of the people on here that was saying in the job thread that most of getting somewhere in this country is about your connections and who you know. white males are certainly the most connected and have the most access to the power postions so QQ about a few handout jobs they give to blacks or women

Gblock;1396514 wrote:I mean I graduated college about 2 years ago and I can list about 40 people right now that all have college degrees and are waiting tables at Bob Evans. The only way to get a job out of college is major in STEM, particularly the engineering field OR have a connection inside a company that happens to be hiring. Heck, one of the biggest dumbasses I know from Ohio State skated by with a ****ty GPA in chemical engineering and now he probably makes more than I do. The only reason I have my current job is because I knew someone that worked here and got myself in front of someone for an interview. -sleeper

sleeper;1396511 wrote:Perhaps because white people aren't handed everything to them in life and HAVE to network(read: take time and effort to get a job) instead of relying solely on their skin color to get hired. Also, white people tend to start more companies while blacks complain about being held down by the man(I mean seriously, when is the last great entrepreneur to not be a white male?).

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1396460 wrote:My intuition wouldn't tell me someone is a keeper if they're not qualified. Perhaps your intuition is failing you?

Pick6;1396485 wrote:just stating the obvious: ETB started this thread because he was passed up by a chick in refereeing

sleeper;1396508 wrote:

• Preferential treatment in receiving aid and acceptance letters to college.
• Preferential treatment in hiring practices since companies don't want to be sued.
• Preferential treatment in winning contracts(one of my clients has to subcontract with at least one woman owned company and one minority owned company).
• Preferential treatment in court cases(Trayvon Martin anyone? The race baiting alone was a media firestorm)
• "The Race Card"

That alone is enough to cause a strong divide between racial groups. Time for minorities to grow up and face reality.

BoatShoes;1396543 wrote:Not just black, but a woman! Gasp! And liberal too! Oh n0ez!!!





Your ignorance can slide though because it is entertaining to read the irony of your sig every time you post. :thumbup:

Gblock;1396545 wrote:haha yea you were the most qualified right? worked hard to get your job and network right? gtfo you knew someone. thats called the good old boy network homie. i wish i would have remembered you wrote that earlier it would have ended the discussion a lot sooner

queencitybuckeye;1396552 wrote:Extend, perhaps. Worsen, perhaps. Cause? Way to late to place that blame here.

sleeper;1396558 wrote:Well considering I graduated from Ohio State with honors, I was absolutely qualified for the job. I knew someone because I attended networking events and got someone's business card and emailed him on a whim asking if there were any job opportunities and he happened to have one. I came in for an interview and got the job. Gosh a ruddies, I'm so lucky to be white; my hard work and ability to network were bestowed upon me at birth and set me up for lifelong of easy rides. It's too bad I didn't just sit at home and aimlessly apply for 1,000 jobs, not get any calls back and then complain that the white man is holding me back. :thumbup:

sleeper;1396553 wrote:Exactly. One. One could argue that she got her fame BECAUSE she was black and a woman. Must be nice! :thumbup:

Gblock;1396561 wrote:lol i didnt say you werent qualified i said MOST qualified...and its funny how you tell the story now compared to when you were just being honest about it:thumbup:

BoatShoes;1396562 wrote:Of all the women and men in the media and those who've had day time talk shows Oprah becomes a billionaire and it's not because she is immensely talented and earned it...it's because she's black and a woman and therefore it was handed to her. God knows if people didn't just hand Oprah her success because she was black and a woman poor oppressed Phil Donohue would've done it!!!

Classic reasoning! Minorities and woman can achieve anything if they work hard, Sleeper says! When they achieve the heights of capitalistic success, they didn't really earn it Sleeper says!
:laugh:

The illusion of knowledge after all!

bigdaddy2003;1396565 wrote:

Lol at the people who think minorities still have it as rough as they did in the pre-1965. I would love to come to your neighborhood and see these injustices. The only white people can be racist and white people have nothing to complain about arguments always bring the laughs as well.

bigdaddy2003;1396565 wrote:Like_that, you have owned this thread. I wish I could've repped you multiple times. Well done sir.

Lol at the people who think minorities still have it as rough as they did in the pre-1965. I would love to come to your neighborhood and see these injustices. The only white people can be racist and white people have nothing to complain about arguments always bring the laughs as well.