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Feb 27, 2013 2:06 PM
my argument is QQ..they arent taking very many of your jobs or scholarships
Feb 27, 2013 2:06pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:07 PM
Gblock;1397241 wrote:my argument is QQ..they arent taking very many of your jobs or scholarships
They shouldn't be taking any based on race. THAT IS RACISM. :mad:
Feb 27, 2013 2:07pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:08 PM
That's like saying "Oh only a few children are molested per year out of so many children, so what's the problem?".

It's still a crime and still needs to be punished accordingly.
Feb 27, 2013 2:08pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:08 PM
sleeper;1397242 wrote:They shouldn't be taking any based on race. THAT IS RACISM. :mad:
Wouldn't it be discrimination?
Feb 27, 2013 2:08pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:09 PM
ernest_t_bass;1397244 wrote:Wouldn't it be discrimination?
At this point I'm not concerned with the correct verbiage. We are still talking big picture here until the real racists on this board are exposed for the frauds that they are.
Feb 27, 2013 2:09pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:10 PM
Apparently this is how the world works:

Those who think all should be treated equally regardless of skin color or gender = RACIST, SEXIST
Those who think minorities and women should be given special treatment based on the ignorance of generations before = non-racist, equality seeking people
Feb 27, 2013 2:10pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:13 PM
sleeper;1397245 wrote:At this point I'm not concerned with the correct verbiage. We are still talking big picture here until the real racists on this board are exposed for the frauds that they are.
so i can assume if you lived in the 1800's since you are such a staunch supporter of those oppressed by racism you would have joined the underground railroad to help possibly some of my relatives. if i had a family history maybe i would know who they were or where they are from but i digress
Feb 27, 2013 2:13pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:15 PM
Gblock;1397249 wrote:so i can assume if you lived in the 1800's since you are such a staunch supporter of those oppressed by racism you would have joined the underground railroad to help possibly some of my relatives. if i had a family history maybe i would know who they were or where they are from but i digress
you can't assume anything like that. pretty dumb analogy.
Feb 27, 2013 2:15pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:17 PM
hasbeen;1397252 wrote:you can't assume anything like that. pretty dumb analogy.
Feb 27, 2013 2:17pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:19 PM
Gblock;1397236 wrote:i think it will take that long before i can agree it is truly an equal opportunity. as it stands i still feel most blacks and especially women have to work harder to get the same opportunities/jobs/pay whatever. the AA things your talking about are a small fraction of a percent of the jobs/opportunities in this country

You are ridiculous. The fact that you feel blacks should get special treatment because of what happened between your ancestors and my ancestors? This isn't 50 years ago. Blacks have every single resource to be successful and probably more than any other race. If they can't be successful then that's their probably and maybe they should work harder instead of sitting on there ass collecting welfare and government checks.
Feb 27, 2013 2:19pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:21 PM
Before any one calls me a racist, I have a ton of black friends and coworkers that I get along great with and are great people. The people I have a problem with are the low life scum bags that feel they should be entitled. Whether its black, white, green, blue or orange.
Feb 27, 2013 2:21pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:29 PM
Crimson streak;1397258 wrote:Before any one calls me a racist,
... I have a black dog!
... I have a color TV!
Feb 27, 2013 2:29pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:32 PM
ernest_t_bass;1397264 wrote:... I have a black dog!
... I have a color TV!

My dog is actually black, white and Carmel color. Beat that
Feb 27, 2013 2:32pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:36 PM
Gblock;1397249 wrote:so i can assume if you lived in the 1800's since you are such a staunch supporter of those oppressed by racism you would have joined the underground railroad to help possibly some of my relatives. if i had a family history maybe i would know who they were or where they are from but i digress
Probably not. Ignorance is relative. People relative to society today were largely ignorant back then(ironically, religion was pretty widespread and correlates highly with ignorance).
Feb 27, 2013 2:36pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:38 PM
Crimson streak;1397258 wrote:Before any one calls me a racist, I have a ton of black friends and coworkers that I get along great with and are great people. The people I have a problem with are the low life scum bags that feel they should be entitled. Whether its black, white, green, blue or orange.
You aren't a racist. Affirmative action supporters are the true racists; either that or they are just political pawns using race to build support and bait the other side.
Feb 27, 2013 2:38pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:40 PM
Anyone here have family members who date or are married to someone of a different race? I was legit told growing up not to date black women.
Feb 27, 2013 2:40pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:44 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1397272 wrote:Anyone here have family members who date or are married to someone of a different race? I was legit told growing up not to date black women.
Black people are told the same thing.
Feb 27, 2013 2:44pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:46 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1397272 wrote: I was legit told growing up not to date black women.
I wasn't directly told, but it was implied.
Feb 27, 2013 2:46pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:47 PM
sleeper;1397277 wrote:Black people are told the same thing.
All black men want a white women, but black women don't want white men.
Feb 27, 2013 2:47pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:48 PM
dlazz;1397279 wrote:I wasn't directly told, but it was implied.
I think they thought they implied it, but it was pretty much "we don't care who you date, but don't bring a black girl home." I always wanted to hook up with a black girl but never had the opportunity. I went to college in Maine, i think there are 50 black people in the entire state.
Feb 27, 2013 2:48pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:49 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1397280 wrote:All black men want a white women, but black women don't want white men.
Oh no, I can assure you they do. Many times I've had to fend them off; just not attracted at all to them.
Feb 27, 2013 2:49pm
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Feb 27, 2013 2:52 PM
sleeper;1397285 wrote:Oh no, I can assure you they do. Many times I've had to fend them off; just not attracted at all to them.
I don't actually believe this. There are plenty I'm attracted to, but i've never had the opportunity.
Feb 27, 2013 2:52pm
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MontyBrunswick

Feb 27, 2013 2:54 PM
I feel the same way about black girls as I feel about most minority girls. Most are undesirable, but there's a certain 1% that is gorgeous.
Feb 27, 2013 2:54pm
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Feb 27, 2013 3:00 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1397287 wrote:I don't actually believe this. There are plenty I'm attracted to, but i've never had the opportunity.
They are just women. They aren't any more inherently different than any other race; just a bit louder. Buy them some drinks, make vague references to sexual activity, bring them back to your place, problem solved.
Feb 27, 2013 3:00pm
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Feb 27, 2013 3:15 PM
ernest_t_bass;1397176 wrote:I haven't, really. The question I asked in my original post was actually a legitimate question.
The problem with your original post is that it is light on details/facts/etc., at least to anyone who isn't specifically an official.

You state that minorities and women get the best assignments, but give no examples or actual proof that they're less-qualified for those assignments. Or that race/gender are the actual reasoning behind it. Or, if this post has anything to do with you and your work as an official, that you're more qualified than the people who are getting picked. Hell, I imagine most people here have no real idea how any local sports agency determines how officials get picked for postseason -- whether it be by merit, rotation, diversity, nepotism/friendship, etc.

Without more details than "everyone knows it's like this", it just comes off as this "I didn't get picked, so I'm bitching and blaming minorities" thing I find hard to take seriously. It comes off as the white version of whoever was criticizing the Minnesota Timberwolves organization for not being black enough.
Feb 27, 2013 3:15pm