ccrunner609;1375795 wrote: What about some women that hesitates in a fire fight?

jmog;1375796 wrote:Some of you need to know that the military, like firefighters and police officers, have ALREADY lower standards for training for women.

This will only get worse now in the military.

Look up the calisthenics requirement differences that already exist.

Women don't have to carry the same weight in their sacks during training runs, and the list goes on.

I have ZERO problem with this IF the standards were the same. However, they are already different and will get worse.

ccrunner609;1375795 wrote:Why is everyone so hooked on the physical part? The average women is weaker then the weakest man. Sure....we know that women doing "some" combat jobs like having to carry 100 pounds of 50 cal ammo through a war zone while getting shot at and having mens lives relying on her to get them the ammo before they are overrun and killed is probably likely to happen and when it does it will be sad that she was pushed into that position cause they lowered the physical requirements to get her there.

But what about the mental part? What about some women that hesitates in a fire fight? Women are not mentally the same either. You cannot bring those emotions to the table when it comes to killing people.

ccrunner609;1375812 wrote:I am sure they do.....I am sure that most get weeded out in training. Women with different standards are going to get pushed through so nobody gets blamed for discriminating. People are gonna die cause of it.

WebFire;1375818 wrote:Ok, now we are some common ground. I agree women should not have lower standards. However, if women can meet the regular standard, they should be able to fight.

ccrunner609;1375795 wrote:But what about the mental part? What about some women that hesitates in a fire fight? Women are not mentally the same either. You cannot bring those emotions to the table when it comes to killing people.

majorspark;1375828 wrote:Not just the women but the men. Men have an innate sense to protect women. The whole "women and children first" mentality. Will it have an effect on men's judgment in battle?

GoChiefs;1375838 wrote:No. Men are not mentally weak in combat.

majorspark;1375840 wrote:Yes they are.

Con_Alma;1375836 wrote:When this is fully implemented in three years should not all 18 year old females be required to file for selective service?

jmog;1375796 wrote:Some of you need to know that the military, like firefighters and police officers, have ALREADY lower standards for training for women.

This will only get worse now in the military.

Look up the calisthenics requirement differences that already exist.

Women don't have to carry the same weight in their sacks during training runs, and the list goes on.

I have ZERO problem with this IF the standards were the same. However, they are already different and will get worse.

ccrunner609;1375834 wrote:what happens when women are POW??

Con_Alma;1375836 wrote:When this is fully implemented in three years should not all 18 year old females be required to file for selective service?

Pick6;1375867 wrote:I would trust a man next to me before a woman.

GoChiefs;1375848 wrote:Yes.

GoChiefs;1375884 wrote:And nobody is being forced in to anything by registering. You can talk about them forcing people when they actually use the draft again.

GoChiefs;1375883 wrote:18+ year old adult women? Yep. How is that different than forcing 18+ year old adult men into service?

majorspark;1375887 wrote:I am not an advocate of conscription. I will serve myself before I vote to force a young teenage girl or boy to serve in my stead. Wouldn't you?

They are not adults under according to the government until they can purchase an adult beverage. Boggles my mind that a government can send kids to war who they deem too immature to consume alcohol yet mature enough to handle some of the most deadly weapons. Mature enough to blow another human beings brains out. Mature enough to mentally to deal with that.

majorspark;1375887 wrote:I am not an advocate of conscription. I will serve myself before I vote to force a young teenage girl or boy to serve in my stead. Wouldn't you?

They are not adults under according to the government until they can purchase an adult beverage. Boggles my mind that a government can send kids to war who they deem too immature to consume alcohol yet mature enough to handle some of the most deadly weapons. Mature enough to blow another human beings brains out. Mature enough to mentally to deal with that.