jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 22, 2009 8:22pm
Just my opinion.devil1197 wrote:
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If Quinn is back, it won't be for long. I see the Browns taking a QB and grooming him or signing one. Look, Quinn has been there 3 yrs and hasn't done anything to show he can be a great quarterback in the league. DA was awful last year and still got some starts over Quinn. Quinn's arm strength and accuracy are below avg for an NFL QB. You can't win consistently with DBs sitting on underneath routes because there is no threat of the deep ball
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Dec 22, 2009 8:29pm
I agree. Anybody that thinks Quinn is an nfl qb doesnt know football.jordo212000 wrote: Brady Quinn and DA are both finished in Cleveland.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Dec 22, 2009 11:54pm
your a jackass guy. quinn has 12 starts as a NFL qb and your gonna say he isn't an nfl qb. what makes you qualified to say that?Al Capone wrote:I agree. Anybody that thinks Quinn is an nfl qb doesnt know football.jordo212000 wrote: Brady Quinn and DA are both finished in Cleveland.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 23, 2009 12:02am
Watching him play.EliteRain20 wrote:your a jackass guy. quinn has 12 starts as a NFL qb and your gonna say he isn't an nfl qb. what makes you qualified to say that?Al Capone wrote:I agree. Anybody that thinks Quinn is an nfl qb doesnt know football.jordo212000 wrote: Brady Quinn and DA are both finished in Cleveland.
Plenty of others share our opinion. Its not like we are the only two people in the world who have said this
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Dec 23, 2009 12:06am
oh well i forgot peyton manning went 3-13 as a starter his rookie year. i bet they were ready to pimp him too. you can not asses a qb on 12 nfl games when he has ZERO talent around him. and how do you expect any qb to be good when he has 2 seconds to throw? please inform mejordo212000 wrote:Watching him play.EliteRain20 wrote:your a jackass guy. quinn has 12 starts as a NFL qb and your gonna say he isn't an nfl qb. what makes you qualified to say that?Al Capone wrote:I agree. Anybody that thinks Quinn is an nfl qb doesnt know football.jordo212000 wrote: Brady Quinn and DA are both finished in Cleveland.
Plenty of others share our opinion. Its not like we are the only two people in the world who have said this
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 23, 2009 12:09am
Spergon Wynn only got 3 career starts. We'll never know if he was a good QB or not.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Dec 23, 2009 12:13am
Eh I just went through this on another thread. Why are you comparing him to Peyton's rookie year? Quinn is in his 3rd year.
I really don't have a horse in this race, so I don't care. You doggedly defending a guy who has never completed more than 54% of his passes and has never had a QB rating higher than 68 is no skin off my back
I really don't have a horse in this race, so I don't care. You doggedly defending a guy who has never completed more than 54% of his passes and has never had a QB rating higher than 68 is no skin off my back
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Dec 23, 2009 12:15am
Why not save your job by faking a foot injury. pussy.
Thunder70
Posts: 748
Dec 23, 2009 8:58am
this.Al Capone wrote: Why not save your job by faking a foot injury. pussy.
kinda like last year and his poor thumb...
Apple
Posts: 2,620
Dec 23, 2009 10:44am
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Sonofanump
Dec 23, 2009 10:45am
You (plural) think that he would not be out there playing if he could?
That type of thinking is insane.
That type of thinking is insane.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Dec 23, 2009 11:36am
Come on, you really don't believe that do you? No way Holmgren puts QB evaluation on hold just to see if a 4th year below average (so far) QB will become good. Quinn is no fool, he has to know this too. Like I said earlier, this is good for the Browns. For Quinn - not so much. He now has to rely on his body of work to make his case for being the starter. Holmgren will not make the wrong decision.Thunder70 wrote:this.Al Capone wrote: Why not save your job by faking a foot injury. pussy.
kinda like last year and his poor thumb...
Thunder70
Posts: 748
Dec 23, 2009 12:06pm
What body of work?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 23, 2009 12:17pm
This!miller45452003 wrote: I'm hopin they give Quinn a shot and wait till next year and be able to draft (hopefully) Ryan Mallet from Arkansas. This kid is the real deal IMO. It's possible he could make an attempt to come out this year and possibly fall to the 2nd round, although highly doubtful. He is the best pro-style QB in the nation IMO.
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pkebker
Posts: 760
Dec 23, 2009 12:43pm
I think both Locker and Mallet will be successful in the pros, but i'm not sure about any QB's in this years draft class. Bradford has been hurt, so you don't know if he'll be the same. Clausen is one of those ND boys who were 'Pro Ready' and in 'Pro Systems', but I've heard that before...Tebow was good in college, but won't be a good NFL qb. So I would prefer to upgrade our talent this year(mainly defense), and then draft the QB the next year...thedynasty1998 wrote:This!miller45452003 wrote: I'm hopin they give Quinn a shot and wait till next year and be able to draft (hopefully) Ryan Mallet from Arkansas. This kid is the real deal IMO. It's possible he could make an attempt to come out this year and possibly fall to the 2nd round, although highly doubtful. He is the best pro-style QB in the nation IMO.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
Dec 23, 2009 1:10pm
3 years of practices, 13 games, etc. May not be a lot, but they didn't bring Holmgren in to win 6 games. Quinn will be at the mercy of his performance thus far. Fair or not, the Browns can't (and won't) wait forever.Thunder70 wrote: What body of work?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 23, 2009 1:22pm
Peyton Manning in his first NFL season (his rookie year) threw for 3800 yds (233/per game) 57%, 26 TD's 28 Int's had 42 passes for 20+ yds and 8 passes for 40+ yds.EliteRain20 wrote:oh well i forgot peyton manning went 3-13 as a starter his rookie year. i bet they were ready to pimp him too. you can not asses a qb on 12 nfl games when he has ZERO talent around him. and how do you expect any qb to be good when he has 2 seconds to throw? please inform mejordo212000 wrote:Watching him play.EliteRain20 wrote:your a jackass guy. quinn has 12 starts as a NFL qb and your gonna say he isn't an nfl qb. what makes you qualified to say that?Al Capone wrote:I agree. Anybody that thinks Quinn is an nfl qb doesnt know football.jordo212000 wrote: Brady Quinn and DA are both finished in Cleveland.
Plenty of others share our opinion. Its not like we are the only two people in the world who have said this
Brady Quinn in his 3rd year first as a starter has thrown for 1300 yds (133/per game) 53%, 8 TD's 7 Int's had 12 passes for 20+ yds and 3 passes for 40+ yds.
Peyton Manning's team may not have been winning but he sure the heck was putting up stats that said he was going to be something special and the Colts were not loaded with talent yet either.
Brady Quinn hasn't done ANYTHING that says remotely that he is going to be an NFL QB or anything special whatsoever. Actually the complete opposite has happened.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 23, 2009 1:56pm
The think Peyton had when he came in that Quinn doesnt is a great WR or RB. Marvin Harrison was on the team as well as Marshall Faulk. Tarik Glenn was the starting LT for Manning but Quinn has Thomas, so that blindside protection is a wash. So to say Peyton didnt have talent is wrong, but I understand what your saying. It wasnt what it is now, and it isnt THAT much better than what Quinn has.
Peyton definitely had better WRs than Quinn does, but Mannings numbers (even rookie year) showed he was gonna be great. The next year, despite the trade of Faulk, when Edge came in, and he was a year older......BAM, 13-3 and the division crown. Brady is nowhere near Peyton in terms of showing us what they have in store for later. Peytons rookie year people were talking about him being top 10 of all time despite being 3-13. Well, they were wrong, he is top 5 easy and maybe the best ever.
Peyton definitely had better WRs than Quinn does, but Mannings numbers (even rookie year) showed he was gonna be great. The next year, despite the trade of Faulk, when Edge came in, and he was a year older......BAM, 13-3 and the division crown. Brady is nowhere near Peyton in terms of showing us what they have in store for later. Peytons rookie year people were talking about him being top 10 of all time despite being 3-13. Well, they were wrong, he is top 5 easy and maybe the best ever.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 23, 2009 2:13pm
If the Browns took Ryan Mallett I would probably snap. The guy completed only 39% of his passes (and went 0-4) against the 4 toughest opponents Arkansas played (Florida, LSU, Bama, and Ole Miss).
Putting up monster stats against Eastern Michigan, Troy, and Mississippi State doesn't sell me on him at all. He has a cannon, but serious accuracy issues.
Putting up monster stats against Eastern Michigan, Troy, and Mississippi State doesn't sell me on him at all. He has a cannon, but serious accuracy issues.
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Dec 23, 2009 4:01pm
Mulva wrote: If the Browns took Ryan Mallett I would probably snap. The guy completed only 39% of his passes (and went 0-4) against the 4 toughest opponents Arkansas played (Florida, LSU, Bama, and Ole Miss).
Putting up monster stats against Eastern Michigan, Troy, and Mississippi State doesn't sell me on him at all. He has a cannon, but serious accuracy issues.
And he's only a sophomore with a very suspect OL. When he has the time to throw, he is dead on. Oh shit wait...we are talking about the Brown's here...better get some OL protection this year on the right side!
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Dec 23, 2009 9:58pm
it appears quinn has more crystal in him than a china cupboard. maybe he is should look into a career with disney on ice