I've recovered from the greatest alcoholic celebration of my life! Last night was like ChrismaHanaKwan all rolled into one for Notre Dome haters!

For the AD of Notre Dome to go on national TV and cry over a completely fabricated story and admitted that Teo knew of this supposed "hoax" while he was going around collecting awards but didn't say a word, makes ND culpable once the truth does come out (its out already as far most reasonable people think) and they should be stripped of all 2012 victories for perpetrating a lie. All credibility for this supposed institution of "integrity" will be forever lost if they do not forfeit all games from this season.

poor Tiernan

Same ol' shitty Irish!!!!

Con_Alma;1367886 wrote:I don't understand what the fuss is over. Who cares if he had a girlfriend or didn't?

Primarily the concept that:

1. It became this huge, heartwarming, inspirational story and now it's known that it was all a lie. Whether it was a lie of his fabrication or he was somehow a victim too, doesn't change the fact it was a total lie.

2. Said huge, heartwarming, inspirational story also played a big role in college football this year. Not in ND making the national championship game, as their status as unbeaten was what did that. But in T'eo winning virtually every award he was up for besides the Heisman (although, the fact he was one of three Heisman finalists was pretty much because of this story).

3. In essence, he was built up all season as this larger-than-life paragon of goodness and integrity...a story of overcoming personal tragedy to achieve greatness. And now it's all a lie. A multi-month deception pulled on the general public that (whether it was his intention or not) had the result of promoting him as a great guy who deserved all the hype and adoration he could ever get.

It's the media who thought it was/should be important to the game that ultimately blew it. As a fan of college football, it changes nothing for me and what I get out of the game.

It's the game that's entertaining, not the individuals. When we seek to make the individual the source of entertainment we diminish the game itself. It's been going on for quite some time so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I get the thirst for info on teams and games. I still don't get the focus on individual's off the field. I guess I'm just not there yet.

Con_Alma;1368157 wrote:It's the media who thought it was/should be important to the game that ultimately blew it.

Did Te'o go to the media, or did the media come to him? Hard for the media to find out his imaginary girlfriend died on their own.

Pick6;1368164 wrote:Did Te'o go to the media, or did the media come to him? Hard for the media to find out his imaginary girlfriend died on their own.

Shouldn't the media be responsible for what they report?

Pick6;1368164 wrote:Did Te'o go to the media, or did the media come to him? Hard for the media to find out his imaginary girlfriend died on their own.

Don't know. Don't care. Don't understand why others do. That's kind of the point of my inquiry.

I wouldn't have more of an affinity for him if his story was true. I don't care that he lied. He's some guy that is one piece of the game that I enjoy. Nothing more.

Con_Alma;1368172 wrote:Don't know. Don't care. Don't understand why others do. That's kind of the point of my inquiry.

I wouldn't have more of an affinity for him if his story was true. I don't care that he lied. He's some guy that is one piece of the game that I enjoy. Nothing more.

I care when people use a fake story and collect millions(?) of dollars in donations from people who assume it is true.

Pick6;1368187 wrote:I care when people use a fake story and collect millions(?) of dollars in donations from people who assume it is true.

I've gathered from the coverage that many people do. I don't understand it nor why they did when the whole thing first began.

Exactly Pick 6 (btw...thanks for the first notice on this gift of a story) I want to know how much money got "donated" in her honor to various cancer organizations. ND should be forced to match that amount x100.


I also want to know what Kelly knew and when he knew it? My bet is they all knew by the time Heisman voting rolled around and this cost Miller tons of votes in the Midwest. Not saying he would have won or anything but it would have sure been nice to see the OSU player invited to NY. It definitely cost Kline votes and who knows he might have jumped over Johnny Shithead.

Tiernan;1368202 wrote:... I want to know how much money got "donated" in her honor to various cancer organizations. ...

Yeah, what a waste that was. :rolleyes:

Con_Alma;1368196 wrote:I've gathered from the coverage that many people do. I don't understand it nor why they did when the whole thing first began.

You dont understand why people would be upset by being extorted millions of dollars by a fake story?

Pick6;1368187 wrote:I care when people use a fake story and collect millions(?) of dollars in donations from people who assume it is true.

Tiernan;1368202 wrote:Exactly Pick 6 (btw...thanks for the first notice on this gift of a story) I want to know how much money got "donated" in her honor to various cancer organizations. ND should be forced to match that amount x100.

woah woah woah..wait a second. This possible hoax caused people to donate to cancer research? Well that is just unacceptable!

Pick6;1368206 wrote:You dont understand why people would be upset by being extorted millions of dollars by a fake story?

I don't understand why they were so engaged in the beginning making themselves able to be exhorted. I don't understand why it was a story, even if real....because he played football? That's not enough reason for me to be interested. As previously stated, I am apparently behind those of you who have an interest in such pop culture things. I'm not sure I want to catch up.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1368209 wrote:woah woah woah..wait a second. This possible hoax caused people to donate to cancer research? Well that is just unacceptable!

It doesnt matter where the money was going (any confirmation on where it did go?), its still fraud. He still used his image to extort people, and could be in A LOT of trouble.

Pick6;1368214 wrote:It doesnt matter where the money was going (any confirmation on where it did go?), its still fraud. He still used his image to extort people, and could be in A LOT of trouble.

No I agree. I donated to United Way at work and they told me it was going to the Boys and Girls Club and it ended up going to the County Hunger Task Force. Can you believe the shit they pull nowdays?

People donate to people not to causes...this sick demented fabrication from Teo's imagination was concocted for the sole purpose of illiciting sympathy for him and the ND football program. Folks who donated money have a right to know their hard earned cash was going to a charity that honored the individual. Since there was no actual individual, Notre Dome should have to pay millions in punitive damages for intentional malice.

Tiernan;1368219 wrote:People donate to people not to causes...

Which person was donated to?

Tiernan;1368219 wrote:People donate to people not to causes...this sick demented fabrication from Teo's imagination was concocted for the sole purpose of illiciting sympathy for him and the ND football program. Folks who donated money have a right to know their hard earned cash was going to a charity that honored the individual. Since there was no actual individual, Notre Dome should have to pay millions in punitive damages for intentional malice.

I agree. Personally when I donate to charity, I like to know the money I sent is going to people I've heard of.. Fuck all those people who I don't know.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1368225 wrote:I agree. Personally when I donate to charity, I like to know the money I sent is going to people I've heard of.. Fuck all those people who I don't know.

People usually donate to charity for other reasons than to just give, unfortunately.

Any person who donates money to a charity "in honorarium" has the legal right to believe that person actually existed and passed away as depicted. This situation is pure unadulterated fraud and should be prosecuted as such. Teo should be convicted and Notre Dame should have to sacrifice games and pay punititive damages. If trading memoribilia gets you one year bowl ban this BS should be at least 3 - 4 yrs bowl ban and loss of victories in 2012.

Con_Alma;1368157 wrote:It's the media who thought it was/should be important to the game that ultimately blew it. As a fan of college football, it changes nothing for me and what I get out of the game.

It's the game that's entertaining, not the individuals. When we seek to make the individual the source of entertainment we diminish the game itself. It's been going on for quite some time so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I get the thirst for info on teams and games. I still don't get the focus on individual's off the field. I guess I'm just not there yet.

Are you a real human?

Tiernan;1368236 wrote:Any person who donates money to a charity "in honorarium" has the legal right to believe that person actually existed and passed away as depicted. This situation is pure unadulterated fraud and should be prosecuted as such. Teo should be convicted and Notre Dame should have to sacrifice games and pay punititive damages. If trading memoribilia gets you one year bowl ban this BS should be at least 3 - 4 yrs bowl ban and loss of victories in 2012.

This is a very interesting approach to your point and quite possibly true. Can you reference the some other case that may lend to such an opinion of the legal right you are speaking of? Mr. Teo may need to get legal counsel pretty quickly.

DeyDurkie5;1368239 wrote:Are you a real human?

I am.