SportsAndLady;1367712 wrote:Sorry, but you guys sound so incredibly pathetic. Just to stick up for a school's football team.

Do yourselves a favor and don't post until the answers have been revealed.

You sound like the OSU idiots who were screaming people were retarded for thinking Tressel could do any wrong.

killer_ewok;1367718 wrote:So we shouldn't post until the answers have been revealed but the wild "the whole university and everybody else that ever met Te'o was in on it" theories are okay to post now? Yeah, that makes complete sense. And perhaps you missed the parts where I said "fuck him" if he was in on it. Blindly defending him, or the team....which frankly doesn't need to be defended in this case, isn't what I'm doing here.

Fly4Fun;1367736 wrote:This story is so bizarre. There is just so much conflicting information out there right now. The one thing that this whole thing shows is just how pathetic the "media" is at fact checking.

sherm03;1367727 wrote:Coming from one of the most retarded posters on this site, this post made me lol.

-Society-;1367723 wrote:Yes, and please let the red-headed fuck know this too.

sherm03;1367727 wrote:Coming from one of the most retarded posters on this site, this post made me lol.

Pick6;1367741 wrote:credit to deadspin for doing investigative journalism on this.

Curly J;1367737 wrote:I say let them post. Just like the Steubenville fans do with their on going controversy. Great for the Lulz.

Curly J;1367737 wrote:I say let them post. Just like the Steubenville fans do with their on going controversy. Great for the Lulz.

Pick6;1367741 wrote:credit to deadspin for doing investigative journalism on this.

sherm03;1367746 wrote:Comparing me to a Steuby fan? Ouch. Guess I should go all-in then and say that Te'o's fake girlfriend was a drunken whore and was asking for that Leukemia to kill her.

Curly J;1367753 wrote:That would be a good start, but not what I meant from my post.

killer_ewok;1367748 wrote:Is that really what you're getting from my posts? Man, not sure how you could read them and come away from them with that. I think I've been pretty fair and somewhat objective about it. Of course, my opinion is not that of the majority on the OC at this time so that automatically opens one up to ridicule on here...and that's fine. I can take it. Some open discussion and reasonable debate with the terry_tate's and wes_mantooth's of the OC is worth sifting through the bullshit on here.

SportsAndLady;1367740 wrote:Because everyone knows you guys are going to defend ND. And everyone knows we're going to have a good time with this story. In the end, the truth will be revealed.

But ND fans constantly defending ND/Te'o and rebutting everything that's being said on the story makes you come off like a defensive pansy.

Here's what Wojciechowski said tonight:

[INDENT] Well, I sat across from him and I was moved by his story and it was heartbreaking and heartwarming and as it turns out totally untrue. But short of asking to see a death certificate, I'm not sure what most people would do differently in that case. But in researching it before I wrote the script, I remember trying to find an obituary for his girlfriend and could not. And couldn't find any record of this car accident. But we asked Manti, could we contact Lennay's family and he said the family would prefer not to be contacted. Could we have some photos of Lennay? He said the family would prefer not to provide those. And so in that instance, and at that moment, you simply think that you have to respect those wishes. But in retrospect, you can see where some of those things simply were not adding up to make sense. Easy to say now. At the time it every enters your mind somebody was involved in that kind of hoax
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Curly J;1367758 wrote:Actually I didn't read that into it at all.

My post was meant more toward SportsandLady for saying you shouldn't say anything. By that right neither should anyone say anything until it all comes out in the end. That would make for a forum with no posts.

That's what I meant. (to you too Sherm)

killer_ewok;1367770 wrote:Understoood. Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. And that I can at least understand. If one "side" should wait for the facts to come out so should the other. But the truth is....I'm not really on a side here. I admit there's some bias on my part but that is simply giving Te'o SOME benefit of the doubt in saying there COULD be an explanation for this to make it less scandalous. Then again, maybe not and he's a fraud piece of shit and I acknowledge that scenario and it's likelihood as well. I obviously don't want it to be true and I'm sure there are some who are hoping that it is true and as bad as it sounds. Fact of the matter is....if it's true....I won't be defending him at all. I don't think I'm defending him that much now....just saying there could....could be some explanation. We will just have to wait and find out.

SportsAndLady;1367740 wrote:Because everyone knows you guys are going to defend ND. And everyone knows we're going to have a good time with this story. In the end, the truth will be revealed.

But ND fans constantly defending ND/Te'o and rebutting everything that's being said on the story makes you come off like a defensive pansy.

killer_ewok;1367770 wrote:Understoood. Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. And that I can at least understand. If one "side" should wait for the facts to come out so should the other. But the truth is....I'm not really on a side here. I admit there's some bias on my part but that is simply giving Te'o SOME benefit of the doubt in saying there COULD be an explanation for this to make it less scandalous. Then again, maybe not and he's a fraud piece of shit and I acknowledge that scenario and it's likelihood as well. I obviously don't want it to be true and I'm sure there are some who are hoping that it is true and as bad as it sounds. Fact of the matter is....if it's true....I won't be defending him at all. I don't think I'm defending him that much now....just saying there could....could be some explanation. We will just have to wait and find out.

CLEconomically Speaking;1367777 wrote:Hey hey hey at least he wasnt getting free tattoos..