http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8802975/pennsylvania-gov-tom-corbett-wants-toss-ncaa-sanctions-penn-state-nittany-lions

The NCAA overstepped its authority by imposing hefty sanctions on Penn State University in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child molestation scandal, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett said Wednesday in announcing a federal lawsuit against the college athletics governing body.

"The NCAA "piled on" and acted unlawfully because it stands to benefit from the sanctions, he said."


How does THAT make any sense?

If PSU doesn't want to abide by the sanctions they can just leave the NCAA - or if the state doesn't want PSU to have the sanctions, they can ban PSU from being an NCAA member. No one forces them to be a member school.

I'll be rooting against the NCAA in this battle.

dlazz;1355690 wrote: "The NCAA "piled on" and acted unlawfully because it stands to benefit from the sanctions, he said."


How does THAT make any sense?

The NCAA essentially took an emotionally charged issue and capitalized on it by issuing a huge $60 million dollar fine. Of that $60 million, I bet 30% goes to administrative costs and the other 70% goes to "charities" that are filled with buddies of the NCAA. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a batch of new child abuse charities being created just to pilfer the cash.

sleeper;1355707 wrote:The NCAA essentially took an emotionally charged issue and capitalized on it by issuing a huge $60 million dollar fine. Of that $60 million, I bet 30% goes to administrative costs and the other 70% goes to "charities" that are filled with buddies of the NCAA. It wouldn't surprise me if we see a batch of new child abuse charities being created just to pilfer the cash.

I'm pretty sure Penn State made the donations to charities of their choosing.

PSU already accepted the penalties, so I think they're wasting their time

dlazz;1355711 wrote:I'm pretty sure Penn State made the donations to charities of their choosing.

PSU already accepted the penalties, so I think they're wasting their time

agreed. Unless they were forced to accept them.

dlazz;1355711 wrote:I'm pretty sure Penn State made the donations to charities of their choosing.

PSU already accepted the penalties, so I think they're wasting their time

Incorrect. Penn State paid the money to the NCAA($12 million so far) and the NCAA is choosing who the money goes to.

Also, PSU accepted the penalties because their President acted in rogue against the board's wishes. I think the board was misled that the penalties wouldn't be this severe. Plus they were being crucified by the public for a report that is filled with holes; they really didn't have much choice.

Pick6;1355713 wrote:agreed. Unless they were forced to accept them.

I don't think the state cares about the penalties itself; they care that TAXPAYER MONEY stays in state and isn't used nationally. That is the purpose of the lawsuit.

sleeper, you think the Freeh report is filled with holes? I've heard many opinions both sides. I read the whole 267 pages and think they had little on Paterno. He was thrown under the bus by Spanier, Gov. Corbett, Schultz, & Curley, all of whom should be in cells next to Sandusky. Paterno was culpable, but I followed the whole saga on www.Pennlive.com and read the Pulitzer Prize winning investigation and the political and law enforcement and 2nd mile corruption was much worse than how much or little Paterno knew or did. I'm not saying Paterno was innocent at all, just want to see the others locked up and this whole lawsuit by Gov Corbett is nothing but a popularity ploy.

Speedofsand;1355849 wrote:sleeper, you think the Freeh report is filled with holes? I've heard many opinions both sides. I read the whole 267 pages and think they had little on Paterno. He was thrown under the bus by Spanier, Gov. Corbett, Schultz, & Curley, all of whom should be in cells next to Sandusky. Paterno was culpable, but I followed the whole saga on www.Pennlive.com and read the Pulitzer Prize winning investigation and the political and law enforcement and 2nd mile corruption was much worse than how much or little Paterno knew or did. I'm not saying Paterno was innocent at all, just want to see the others locked up and this whole lawsuit by Gov Corbett is nothing but a popularity ploy.

And none of this has anything to do with football. This gave PSU no competitive advantage on or off the field and isn't in the jurisdiction of the NCAA.

Yeah, indirectly it did. If what Sandusky did was outed in '98 or '01 when McQueary saw, the football program would have been affected. PSU is a member of the ncaa, so they signed up for the rules that come with that. If the ncaa didn't punish psu, who would? I agree the punishment should have been toward the top of the admin instead of future kids schollies.

sleeper;1355875 wrote:And none of this has anything to do with football. This gave PSU no competitive advantage on or off the field and isn't in the jurisdiction of the NCAA.

PSU agreed to the penalty. Makes the idea of jurisdiction moot IMO.

queencitybuckeye;1355920 wrote:PSU agreed to the penalty. Makes the idea of jurisdiction moot IMO.

PSU had no recourse. If they don't accept the penalties, they wouldn't be in the NCAA. The NCAA took advantage and acted quickly on a public that was hoodwinked with a report that couldn't hold a candle in a court of law. They did this purely to earn more money for their coffers and I hope this lawsuit bankrupts them.

Speedofsand;1355896 wrote:Yeah, indirectly it did. If what Sandusky did was outed in '98 or '01 when McQueary saw, the football program would have been affected. PSU is a member of the ncaa, so they signed up for the rules that come with that. If the ncaa didn't punish psu, who would? I agree the punishment should have been toward the top of the admin instead of future kids schollies.

This has nothing to do with football. This is a criminal investigation involving an employee of the university and the NCAA shouldn't be involved at all.

Let's put it this way. Say this same exact incident happened at Middle Tennessee State. Do you really think the NCAA would give them a 4 year bowl ban, $60 million dollar fine, vacated wins, loss of scholarships, etc. No. The NCAA did this because they had an easy target in an emotionally charged environment and wanted to make easy cash.

The penalty should be a 2 year bowl ban and loss of scholarships at most.

I'm merely hoping that this case gets beyond the motion to dismiss. The dirt and scum of the NCAA and their practices would come out during discovery, which is why getting past that motion to dismiss is so crucial.

I'm with sleeper 100% here. The NCAA overstepped its jurisdiction and levied huge fines relative to the supposed 'benefit' PSU "indirectly" got from not outing Sandusky earlier. Moreover, their ruling...(like many of their other rulings) are arbitrary, subjective and not based on any written code of law. The governor is entirely within his rights to sue since the NCAA affects people in his state that have to bear the punishments this organization has arbitrarily imposed. 99.9999% of the students, faculty, staff and alumni of PSU had nothing to do with this criminal scandal and crime and should not be forced to bear the brunt of what has become an out of control organization. Clearly this overreach by the NCAA needs to checked. Further, the arguement that the University "has already agreed to accept" these sanctions and that if PSU "doesn't like the NCAA rulings, it could just leave" is null and void considering the near monopoly power that the NCAA has on big school college athletics. Clearly this is an unlawful coercion.

[INDENT]I'm merely hoping that this case gets beyond the motion to dismiss. The dirt and scum of the NCAA and their practices would come out during discovery, which is why getting past that motion to dismiss is so crucial. [/INDENT]

The actions of this organization need to see the light of day.

And I hope that Pennsylvania aggressively pursues this lawsuit. Someone needs to stand up to the NCAA. They clearly crossed the boundary in this case.

And I hope that Pennsylvania aggressively pursues this lawsuit. Someone needs to stand up to the NCAA. They clearly crossed the boundary in this case.

I think Penn. will end up winning this. The NCAA should only be involved in sports violations and not criminal ones. The guilty parties in this terrible case are all being prosecuted by the law of the state and federal where it applies. The NCAA should have to deal with sports violations not criminal violations.

stlouiedipalma;1357113 wrote:And I hope that Pennsylvania aggressively pursues this lawsuit. Someone needs to stand up to the NCAA. They clearly crossed the boundary in this case.

agreed

believer;1358222 wrote:agreed

You're in the minority.

^^^Being in the 'minority' has nothing to do with rightness, wrongness, or legality. This organization needs its wings clipped, and the more people see what NCAA is all about, the better chance that will come about.:thumbup:

HitsRus;1358339 wrote:^^^Being in the 'minority' has nothing to do with rightness, wrongness, or legality. This organization needs its wings clipped, and the more people see what NCAA is all about, the better chance that will come about.:thumbup:

I guess...but this case probably won't be the "clipping of the wings".

only if the Governor wins....but even if he doesn't, it'll force some self review and make others bolder in standing up to their crap.