IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 30, 2013 10:07pm


DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Dec 30, 2013 10:18pm
Literally the worst photoshop job I've seen in a while. You suck Iggy.IggyPride00;1559476 wrote:
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 30, 2013 10:21pm
I saw it posted somewhere else and found it veryapropos to the current situation . I have no clue how to work photoshop.DeyDurkie5;1559481 wrote:Literally the worst photoshop job I've seen in a while. You suck Iggy.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 30, 2013 10:28pm
You should stop posting here and keep posting thereIggyPride00;1559482 wrote:I saw it posted somewhere else

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 30, 2013 10:30pm
The Browns were pretty much in every game..meaning, the QB play wasn't the issue. It was the reason why we didn't go 12-4, but it wasn't the reason why we went 4-12.ohiobucks1;1559461 wrote:I'm confused on why It's Chud's fault that we had no QB capable of playing in the NFL once Hoyer went down...

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Dec 30, 2013 10:42pm
seeing on twitter Josh McDaniels has started calling around the NFL to assemble his staff. Sources say job is his if he wants it.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 31, 2013 12:24am
Then it's more on Horton, his unit is the one that gave up the leads. This had nothing to do with the on field product or the whole staff would've been let go. Surely you can see that. They just didn't like Chud.SportsAndLady;1559485 wrote:The Browns were pretty much in every game..meaning, the QB play wasn't the issue. It was the reason why we didn't go 12-4, but it wasn't the reason why we went 4-12.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 7:59am
The players stopped playing for Chud...surely you can see that.se-alum;1559534 wrote:Then it's more on Horton, his unit is the one that gave up the leads. This had nothing to do with the on field product or the whole staff would've been let go. Surely you can see that. They just didn't like Chud.
You fire a guy that players won't play for. Period.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 31, 2013 7:59am
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http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2013/12/31/Sanity-and-lunacy.html#YW6i3ZcD5VR4GUsM.99[/LEFT]
The next coach in Cleveland, whoever that poor sap may be, will step smack dab into the NFL’s most bacteria-infested culture. And, like Chudzinski, aside from play selections and defensive schemes, he will have little or no say in how the operation is run.
http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2013/12/31/Sanity-and-lunacy.html#YW6i3ZcD5VR4GUsM.99[/LEFT]

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 8:00am
No one cares what some hack journalist from the Toledo Blade has to say about the Browns.vball10set;1559558 wrote:[LEFT]The next coach in Cleveland, whoever that poor sap may be, will step smack dab into the NFL’s most bacteria-infested culture. And, like Chudzinski, aside from play selections and defensive schemes, he will have little or no say in how the operation is run.
Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/DaveHackenberg/2013/12/31/Sanity-and-lunacy.html#YW6i3ZcD5VR4GUsM.99[/LEFT]
That "poor sap" will be getting paid millions of dollars a year. Cry some more for us, Toledo.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 31, 2013 8:03am
lol, don't kill the messenger, S&L, but you're right about one thing--the journalist's nickname is Hack (as in Dave Hackenberg). The Browns organization is a joke and the laughingstock of the league, period. Deal with it.SportsAndLady;1559559 wrote:No one cares what some hack journalist from the Toledo Blade has to say about the Browns.
That "poor sap" will be getting paid millions of dollars a year. Cry some more for us, Toledo.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 8:04am
Yeah, you're definitely just the messenger...vball10set;1559560 wrote:lol, don't kill the messenger, S&L, but you're right about one thing--the journalist's nickname is Hack (as in Dave Hackenberg). The Browns organization is a joke and the laughingstock of the league, period. Deal with it.
Go become a Packers fan, vball.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 31, 2013 8:08am
I didn't write it, I just posted it, so yes, a messenger. I applaud your loyalty, but again, they're a joke. What have they done in the past 10 years to dispel what I'm saying?SportsAndLady;1559561 wrote:Yeah, you're definitely just the messenger...
Go become a Packers fan, vball.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 8:12am
Well are you saying it or are you just the messenger?vball10set;1559562 wrote:I didn't write it, I just posted it, so yes, a messenger. I applaud your loyalty, but again, they're a joke. What have they done in the past 10 years to dispel what I'm saying?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 31, 2013 8:20am
SportsAndLady;1559566 wrote:Well are you saying it or are you just the messenger?
The messenger part referred to the article, but what I'm saying is that the organization is a joke. I'm giving my opinion is all, and not trying to downplay yours. You think they're moving in the right direction, I don't. I posted an article supporting my opinion, and you're free to post one supporting yours.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 8:27am
Chud is a Toledo guy..of course you think they're now moving in the wrong direction, and of course the Toledo Blade writer thinks that, too.vball10set;1559567 wrote:The messenger part referred to the article, but what I'm saying is that the organization is a joke. I'm giving my opinion is all, and not trying to downplay yours. You think they're moving in the right direction, I don't. I posted an article supporting my opinion, and you're free to post one supporting yours.
You can have your opinion, but it's incredibly biased and no Browns fan really cares that you are now a Packers fan.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 31, 2013 8:39am
Fair enough, but I'd still like to hear what you think the Brown's organization has done over the least decade to show they're committed to winning.SportsAndLady;1559568 wrote:Chud is a Toledo guy..of course you think they're now moving in the wrong direction, and of course the Toledo Blade writer thinks that, too.
You can have your opinion, but it's incredibly biased and no Browns fan really cares that you are now a Packers fan.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 8:44am
The current Browns ownership has only been there for a year and some change.vball10set;1559572 wrote:Fair enough, but I'd still like to hear what you think the Brown's organization has done over the least decade to show they're committed to winning.
So, why would I comment on the regime 10 years ago?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 31, 2013 8:48am
Don't mind him. He loves Joe Banner and is feeling alot of shame right now because he has been exposed as a complete fraud. It's only natural for him to lash out like this. Not unlike the kid who learns Santa isn't real for the first time, they don't want to believe it so they just go on attack to everyone who ruined the fantasy for them.I posted an article supporting my opinion, and you're free to post one supporting yours.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 31, 2013 8:50am
Yep, that's exactly it.IggyPride00;1559576 wrote:Don't mind him. He loves Joe Banner and is feeling alot of shame right now because he has been exposed as a complete fraud. It's only natural for him to lash out like this. Not unlike the kid who learns Santa isn't real for the first time, they don't want to believe it so they just go on attack to everyone who ruined the fantasy for them.
I just love Joe Banner so much..you can tell by all my previous posts on him...oh wait...

pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Dec 31, 2013 9:06am
7 coaches and 20 starting QBs since 99. Is there really a worse Franchise of the new millennium than the Browns? I am no Browns hater but wow how can a team miss that many times on coaches, quarterbacks or players in general.

Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Dec 31, 2013 9:28am
It is definitely saddening to see those numbers. I'm tired of watching us lose as well, but at some point, one of these regimes has to get it right, don't they? I mean, aside from the firing of Chud, the players seem to agree with the way things are being done, calling it the "right way" and "planning for the future" and whatnot. Everyone second guessed the Trent trade, and now it looks like grand larceny. We're all so used to seeing these things fail that we immediately fly off the handle when a decision is made. Let's wait and see how this thing plays out. The one thing I think they need to be careful of is keeping the players in a positive mindset. All these guys are angry, and we can't afford to lose these guys who are part of our core.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Dec 31, 2013 9:33am
If there is one guy out there that can unify a locker room it is definitely Josh McDaniels.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1559602 wrote:It is definitely saddening to see those numbers. I'm tired of watching us lose as well, but at some point, one of these regimes has to get it right, don't they? I mean, aside from the firing of Chud, the players seem to agree with the way things are being done, calling it the "right way" and "planning for the future" and whatnot. Everyone second guessed the Trent trade, and now it looks like grand larceny. We're all so used to seeing these things fail that we immediately fly off the handle when a decision is made. Let's wait and see how this thing plays out. The one thing I think they need to be careful of is keeping the players in a positive mindset. All these guys are angry, and we can't afford to lose these guys who are part of our core.

bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 31, 2013 9:38am
What did Chud do to warrant outrage over his firing?
Team got worse, terrible game management, players quit.
5 pro bowlers 4 wins.
Team got worse, terrible game management, players quit.
5 pro bowlers 4 wins.

Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Dec 31, 2013 9:40am
He was nice to them? Not exactly what a head coaches job is, but I'm fairly certain that's part of the reason he was excused.bases_loaded;1559608 wrote:What did Chud do to warrant outrage over his firing?
Team got worse, terrible game management, players quit.
5 pro bowlers 4 wins.