fish82
Posts: 4,111
Dec 28, 2012 12:47pm
There isn't anything in the email dump that I'd classify as "kiddie pr0n." That said, Manowar's taste in the ladies is predictably pedestrian. :laugh:
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 28, 2012 12:48pm
I don't know...fill me in. I do know they started a petition to tag WBC as a hate group.GoChiefs;1351860 wrote:We heard about how they were going to stop the WBC from showing up at the CT funerals too. How'd that work out?
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 28, 2012 12:49pm
Well the reputation hit only matters as much as one cares about them, and I for one couldn't give care at all. If they had real damning evidence of a crime they should nut up and provide evidence for the authorities to obtain a legal warrant - and if they committed crimes again nut up and do admit to it. Until then for all I know they are 30 year old virgins living in their mothers' basements. And aren't worth anything more. I can't believe I wasted nearly a dozen posts discussing the matter.fish82;1351863 wrote:It's just a reputation hit. Obviously their methods make prosecution problematic.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 28, 2012 12:50pm
"The point is, you'd still be a felon with a meth lab"
And they are still burglars!
And they are still burglars!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 28, 2012 12:51pm
Read up on Anonymous. The FBI have been chasing them for years. Anonymous and their subgroups have taken down government websites, including the Dept. of Justice site. MOW is ManO'War, the owner of the rollredroll.com website, and poster on this site and JJ.Manhattan Buckeye;1351853 wrote:So they committed a felony in both Federal and Ohio law, most likely. And they are somehow credible. My guess if the Feds even begin to care about this (and IMO they don't), Anonymous is in more trouble than MOW (who the heck is that BTW?).
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Dec 28, 2012 12:52pm
They've provided the evidence it's up to the authorities to act.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 28, 2012 12:52pm
Did you even read about the the original case?Manhattan Buckeye;1351870 wrote:Well the reputation hit only matters as much as one cares about them, and I for one couldn't give care at all. If they had real damning evidence of a crime they should nut up and provide evidence for the authorities to obtain a legal warrant - and if they committed crimes again nut up and do admit to it. Until then for all I know they are 30 year old virgins living in their mothers' basements. And aren't worth anything more. I can't believe I wasted nearly a dozen posts discussing the matter.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 28, 2012 12:55pm
They claimed to have done just that. It's there for anyone to see if they are so inclined (I'm personally not interested in what is a side ring in this circus).Manhattan Buckeye;1351870 wrote: If they had real damning evidence of a crime they should nut up and provide evidence for the authorities to obtain a legal warrant
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 28, 2012 12:55pm
And again, to what sort of prosecution? Anything they post or do isn't admissible in court, and by reading one of the posts above one of them wouldn't even allow an interview without revealing their name. It could be a brilliant hacking, or just a ruse. We don't know. What we do know is what they produce isn't productive, so we shouldn't presume it is reliable.se-alum;1351872 wrote:Read up on Anonymous. The FBI have been chasing them for years. Anonymous and their subgroups have taken down government websites, including the Dept. of Justice site. MOW is ManO'War, the owner of the rollredroll.com website, and poster on this site and JJ.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 28, 2012 12:56pm
Cite?queencitybuckeye;1351875 wrote:They claimed to have done just that. It's there for anyone to see if they are so inclined (I'm personally not interested in what is a side ring in this circus).
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 28, 2012 12:56pm
Not usable in a court of law != unproductive.Manhattan Buckeye;1351876 wrote:What we do know is what they produce isn't productive, so we shouldn't presume it is reliable.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Dec 28, 2012 12:59pm
Of course it is unproductive. If I think my neighbor has subscribed to a kiddie porn magazine and I steal one from his mailbox, if I don't admit to stealing from the mailbox (which itself is a crime), my testimony is worthless. It will be destroyed on cross-examination if not thrown out entirely, ergo, worthless.queencitybuckeye;1351880 wrote:Not usable in a court of law != unproductive.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Dec 28, 2012 1:12pm
Is it admissible in court if the police see what Anonymous has done, obtain a search warrant, and then uncover the same information to be used in court?Manhattan Buckeye;1351882 wrote:Of course it is unproductive. If I think my neighbor has subscribed to a kiddie porn magazine and I steal one from his mailbox, if I don't admit to stealing from the mailbox (which itself is a crime), my testimony is worthless. It will be destroyed on cross-examination if not thrown out entirely, ergo, worthless.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Dec 28, 2012 1:15pm
Other ways to really fuck up that neighbor's life with that mag than the court system.Manhattan Buckeye;1351882 wrote:Of course it is unproductive. If I think my neighbor has subscribed to a kiddie porn magazine and I steal one from his mailbox, if I don't admit to stealing from the mailbox (which itself is a crime), my testimony is worthless. It will be destroyed on cross-examination if not thrown out entirely, ergo, worthless.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 28, 2012 1:17pm
Anon has provided the method to obtain those that are allegedly guilty. Should they not receive apologies from the guilty parties (thereby admitting guilt), they will release personal information. If the authorities don't act on the method provided, they will appear equally as guilty. No matter how obtained, those guilty are skeeerewed.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 28, 2012 1:30pm
But it will be F-U-N watching him try!queencitybuckeye;1351824 wrote:He should be far more afraid of calling this Anonymous group liars than anything the police may or may not find. He isn't going to win an internet posting battle against these people.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Dec 28, 2012 1:30pm
Crazy man, just crazyse-alum;1351872 wrote:Read up on Anonymous. The FBI have been chasing them for years. Anonymous and their subgroups have taken down government websites, including the Dept. of Justice site. MOW is ManO'War, the owner of the rollredroll.com website, and poster on this site and JJ.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Dec 28, 2012 1:42pm
If nothing else, prosecution in the court of public opinion. If you're outted as someone keeping kiddie porn, that's just about as bad as being locked up, your life is ruined, and essentially over. Anonymous isn't any kind of ruse, there is plenty of evidence out there pertaining to their hacking ability. Watch the video on Youtube of them hacking the WBC website while they were doing a news interview with a WBC member. They're legit, and actually pretty calm in their methods, unlike NaziGods, and some other hacktivist groups.Manhattan Buckeye;1351876 wrote:And again, to what sort of prosecution? Anything they post or do isn't admissible in court, and by reading one of the posts above one of them wouldn't even allow an interview without revealing their name. It could be a brilliant hacking, or just a ruse. We don't know. What we do know is what they produce isn't productive, so we shouldn't presume it is reliable.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 28, 2012 2:28pm
Manhattan- please do A LOT more reading on the case so that you become familiar with the situation.
The NY times article puts the whole story together pretty well from what I recall.
The NY times article puts the whole story together pretty well from what I recall.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 28, 2012 2:54pm
I hope the child porno case doesn't overshadow the original gang rape case. What those players, coaches and admns did to cover up a heinous crime to save a football program is on par with Penn State and more than just the two arrested need to answer for that crime.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 28, 2012 3:12pm
I do not think there is any case for child porn. It wasnt the rape victim in his email, it was a girl from Steubenville (per a guy from IC who knows her). Not underage, but still messed up considering MoW is married.Tiernan;1351917 wrote:I hope the child porno case doesn't overshadow the original gang rape case. What those players, coaches and admns did to cover up a heinous crime to save a football program is on par with Penn State and more than just the two arrested need to answer for that crime.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Dec 28, 2012 3:40pm
Anonymous terrorists? Lulz.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 28, 2012 3:42pm
Anonymous ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>YourAnonNews
"I did in fact contact Knight Sec and offer my support of Op RollRedRoll." ~~ Commander x
"I did in fact contact Knight Sec and offer my support of Op RollRedRoll." ~~ Commander x
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Dec 28, 2012 3:48pm
That ain't good lol.wes_mantooth;1351942 wrote:Anonymous ‏<s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 187, 187);">@</s>YourAnonNews
"I did in fact contact Knight Sec and offer my support of Op RollRedRoll." ~~ Commander x
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PropJoe
Posts: 28
Dec 28, 2012 3:50pm
lol, you're such an idiotManhattan Buckeye;1351842 wrote:What are they going to do, beat them at Risk? Dungeons and Dragons, perhaps summoning some sort of demon while dreaming of sleeping with a woman?