The Steubenville incident v. Anonymous

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Dec 28, 2012 11:57am
Manhattan Buckeye;1351815 wrote:Bear in mind (and I'm not really all of this into the story), it sounds like the people that are claiming he committed any sort of crime, have themselves admitted to committing crimes.

It would be as if a burglar of my home threatened to reveal that I had a Breaking Bad-esque meth lab that he noticed while he was stealing stuff from me. Not exactly a great witness for any sort of prosecution. For all we know (and I know nothing, because the story stinks from both sides and I don't care enough about Steubenville football) they are building a libel case.

So you're saying he's basically admitting guilt on the child porn but is hoping a court views it as ok because it was obtained illegally?
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Dec 28, 2012 11:58am
Because if I don't have child porn and am being accused of having child porn, I have no reason to not say, I don't have child porn. I don't need lawyer to say I don't have child porn if I don't have child porn.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 28, 2012 12:00pm
He should be far more afraid of calling this Anonymous group liars than anything the police may or may not find. He isn't going to win an internet posting battle against these people.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:02pm
bases_loaded;1351820 wrote:So you're saying he's basically admitting guilt on the child **** but is hoping a court views it as ok because it was obtained illegally?
Where did he admit anything?

If so, I haven't read it here.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:02pm
Lol at his password hint being favorite sports team: big red

Is that even hacking when it's that easy?
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Dec 28, 2012 12:04pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351825 wrote:Where did he admit anything?

If so, I haven't read it here.

By not responding for a week in my head he's hiding something. The guy is a message board whore and he disappears to lawyer up for a week? If I'm innocent I'm screaming from the roof tops immediately.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:05pm
bases_loaded;1351826 wrote:Lol at his password hint being favorite sports team: big red

Is that even hacking when it's that easy?
It is a bit like posting a sign on one's house indicating where you hide the key.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 28, 2012 12:06pm
If the man is innocent, I should feel bad for him. However, I just can't as he's such a d-bag.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:08pm
Seems to me that MOW is confused on the timeline. Didn't the NYT article come out first...which led to Anonymous taking interest?

LOL at the media "aiding and abetting" Anonymous. But in my interactions with those fans over there, Steubenville loves the "us against the world" mentality.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:08pm
queencitybuckeye;1351824 wrote:He should be far more afraid of calling this Anonymous group liars than anything the police may or may not find. He isn't going to win an internet posting battle against these people.
This. He'd be better served to just hunker down and STFU until it hopefully blows over.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:11pm
bases_loaded;1351827 wrote:By not responding for a week in my head he's hiding something. The guy is a message board whore and he disappears to lawyer up for a week? If I'm innocent I'm screaming from the roof tops immediately.
I think you are confusing internet peeing battles with real life consequences.

If some idiot on the internet said that I have kiddie porn in my house or have in any way, shape or form committed a crime (and trust me, I don't or haven't), I don't respond publicly or in any way directly respond to even dignify it with a response. If I think it would in any way hurt my reputation thus a libel or slander case would be in order, without question I'm shutting up and let the idiot bury himself.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:11pm
Anon isn't happy wtrf won't air his sit down interview because he wouldn't provide his name.

He has summoned naziGods to aid.

Uh oh
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Dec 28, 2012 12:18pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351833 wrote:I think you are confusing internet peeing battles with real life consequences.

If some idiot on the internet said that I have kiddie porn in my house or have in any way, shape or form committed a crime (and trust me, I don't or haven't), I don't respond publicly or in any way directly respond to even dignify it with a response. If I think it would in any way hurt my reputation thus a libel or slander case would be in order, without question I'm shutting up and let the idiot bury himself.
Exactly.

MOW just dug himself a deeper hole. "Terrorists" :laugh:
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Dec 28, 2012 12:27pm
bases_loaded;1351834 wrote:Anon isn't happy wtrf won't air his sit down interview because he wouldn't provide his name.

He has summoned naziGods to aid.

Uh oh
What are they going to do, beat them at Risk? Dungeons and Dragons, perhaps summoning some sort of demon while dreaming of sleeping with a woman?
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Dec 28, 2012 12:30pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351842 wrote:What are they going to do, beat them at Risk? Dungeons and Dragons, perhaps summoning some sort of demon while dreaming of sleeping with a woman?

No. Just probably the same stuff they did to MOW.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:31pm
bases_loaded;1351847 wrote:No. Just probably the same stuff they did to MOW.
Which was?

I don't follow twitter. What exactly did they do?
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Dec 28, 2012 12:32pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351842 wrote:What are they going to do, beat them at Risk? Dungeons and Dragons, perhaps summoning some sort of demon while dreaming of sleeping with a woman?
They can access every bit of information that exists on the man. One can do quite a bit of damage with that information.
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Dec 28, 2012 12:33pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351848 wrote:Which was?

I don't follow twitter. What exactly did they do?
they hacked rollredroll.com a couple times, putting up their messages and videos. They also locked MOW's email and dumped the contents into a hosted file.
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Dec 28, 2012 12:36pm
So they committed a felony in both Federal and Ohio law, most likely. And they are somehow credible. My guess if the Feds even begin to care about this (and IMO they don't), Anonymous is in more trouble than MOW (who the heck is that BTW?).
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Dec 28, 2012 12:37pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351842 wrote:What are they going to do, beat them at Risk? Dungeons and Dragons, perhaps summoning some sort of demon while dreaming of sleeping with a woman?
These hacker groups are not not your typical "computer nerds." They have done some serious damage and aren't to be taken lightly.
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Manhattan Buckeye
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Dec 28, 2012 12:43pm
Has there been any prosecution based on "anonymous", or is it just a reputation hit?
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Dec 28, 2012 12:44pm
Automatik;1351855 wrote:These hacker groups are not not your typical "computer nerds." They have done some serious damage and aren't to be taken lightly.

We heard about how they were going to stop the WBC from showing up at the CT funerals too. How'd that work out?
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Dec 28, 2012 12:45pm
You can see the original hack along with the emails at

Www.stopbigred.com
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Dec 28, 2012 12:45pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351859 wrote:Has there been any prosecution based on "anonymous", or is it just a reputation hit?
It's just a reputation hit. Obviously their methods make prosecution problematic. :D
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Dec 28, 2012 12:46pm
Manhattan Buckeye;1351815 wrote:Bear in mind (and I'm not really all of this into the story), it sounds like the people that are claiming he committed any sort of crime, have themselves admitted to committing crimes.

It would be as if a burglar of my home threatened to reveal that I had a Breaking Bad-esque meth lab that he noticed while he was stealing stuff from me. Not exactly a great witness for any sort of prosecution.
The point is, you'd still be a felon with a meth lab

Doesn't speak any better of you because someone broke in and found it

You'd still be making meth

I really don't think Anonymous cares a hole bunch about how this is adjudicated. They've formed an opinion that the system is failed, and they're stepping in