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JU-ICE
Posts: 259
Dec 6, 2012 2:39pm
In a Time magazine article on Roger Goodall, he talks about ending the kickoff in the NFL. According to the article this is what he could see coming in the future:
"after a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it’s fourth and 15. The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession, or punt. If you go for it and fall short, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, punts would replace kickoffs, and punts are less susceptible to violent collisions than kickoffs."
"after a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it’s fourth and 15. The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession, or punt. If you go for it and fall short, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, punts would replace kickoffs, and punts are less susceptible to violent collisions than kickoffs."
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Dec 6, 2012 2:42pm
Was just reading that on espn. Its so dumb really but granted it would make it easier for teams at the end of games to get the ball back.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 6, 2012 2:43pm
Wuh? Goodell needs to kill himself.JU-ICE;1337464 wrote:In a Time magazine article on Roger Goodall, he talks about ending the kickoff in the NFL. According to the article this is what he could see coming in the future:
"after a touchdown or field goal, instead of kicking off, a team would get the ball on its own 30-yard line, where it’s fourth and 15. The options are either to go for it and try to retain possession, or punt. If you go for it and fall short, the opposing team would take over with good field position. In essence, punts would replace kickoffs, and punts are less susceptible to violent collisions than kickoffs."
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Dec 6, 2012 2:43pm
What. The. Fuck?
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 6, 2012 2:48pm
This could end games so fast. A team takes a couple chances and could be up 3 scores before the other team even gets the ball.
How about the NBA becomes Make it-take it
How about the NBA becomes Make it-take it
IBleedRed
Posts: 14
Dec 6, 2012 2:50pm
Right, because so many teams are already going for it on 4th and 15 from their own 30 yard lineRaw Dawgin' it;1337473 wrote:This could end games so fast. A team takes a couple chances and could be up 3 scores before the other team even gets the ball.
How about the NBA becomes Make it-take it
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 6, 2012 2:51pm
Are you f*cking kidding me?!
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 6, 2012 2:56pm
Depending on match ups and coaches like the Harbaugh's and Belichick, could easily see teams go for this early in the game to try and jump a head.IBleedRed;1337475 wrote:Right, because so many teams are already going for it on 4th and 15 from their own 30 yard line
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 6, 2012 3:01pm
And it'd really suck in the fourth quarter if you're a defense/running/ball control team. No onside kicks to get back into games or trick the other team, just hope your modern day Dilfer can get the ball 15 yards downfield with accuracy when the other team's in a prevent/zone defense designed to give up the five-yard routes and nothing more.Raw Dawgin' it;1337482 wrote:Depending on match ups and coaches like the Harbaugh's and Belichick, could easily see teams go for this early in the game to try and jump a head.
IBleedRed
Posts: 14
Dec 6, 2012 3:01pm
I agree it could happen occasionally, just like some teams going for suprise onside kicks but I still think it would be no more than a handful of times a season. I think its more likely some coaches bluff like they will go for it and catch a team that isn't expecting it to get them to burn a timeout.Raw Dawgin' it;1337482 wrote:Depending on match ups and coaches like the Harbaugh's and Belichick, could easily see teams go for this early in the game to try and jump a head.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 6, 2012 3:16pm
Most kicks go into the endzone as it is - the returner has the option of taking a knee. Just seems like an overreaction on Goodell's part.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Dec 6, 2012 3:18pm
stupid as fuck
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Dec 6, 2012 3:22pm
What makes punts any less dangerous than kickoffs? You still have huge NFL players running 40-50+ yards with a head start hitting and trying to tackle. Just what exactly is the difference? I didn't understand the logic of making the kickoff line only have a 5 yard head start instead of 10 like it used to be, they are running down to near the goal line, that's a huge head of steam whether they only get to go 5 or 10 yards before the ball is kicked. Even with punts and starting from a stopped position, they are getting a huge head of steam. So, I don't understand how they are any different with regards to collisions and injuries.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 6, 2012 3:28pm
Punts start with both teams lined up at the line of scrimmage so that helps. A lot of time punts aren't fielded or fair caught too.tk421;1337512 wrote:What makes punts any less dangerous than kickoffs? You still have huge NFL players running 40-50+ yards with a head start hitting and trying to tackle. Just what exactly is the difference? I didn't understand the logic of making the kickoff line only have a 5 yard head start instead of 10 like it used to be, they are running down to near the goal line, that's a huge head of steam whether they only get to go 5 or 10 yards before the ball is kicked. Even with punts and starting from a stopped position, they are getting a huge head of steam. So, I don't understand how they are any different with regards to collisions and injuries.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Dec 6, 2012 3:34pm
I wonder what percentage of kickoffs are returned vs punts
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 6, 2012 3:36pm
thissportchampps;1337523 wrote:I wonder what percentage of kickoffs are returned vs punts
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 6, 2012 3:37pm
#s show kickoffs are by far the most dangerous play in football.
But, I think it would be ironic if the first time someone goes for it the WR goes over the middle and gets knocked the fuck out.
But, I think it would be ironic if the first time someone goes for it the WR goes over the middle and gets knocked the fuck out.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 6, 2012 3:40pm
[video=youtube;8VESKYKlcDo][/video]Laley23;1337527 wrote:#s show kickoffs are by far the most dangerous play in football.
But, I think it would be ironic if the first time someone goes for it the WR goes over the middle and gets knocked the fuck out.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 6, 2012 3:45pm
It's help building the case that the NFL is taking another "reasonable step" to protect players against concussions so if/when they are sued they can have a list of activities in their file.
Look for this step to be put into HS rules in the future also.
Look for this step to be put into HS rules in the future also.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Dec 6, 2012 3:45pm
I think about 47% of kickoffs are touchbacks in 2012 (source: http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/kickoffs-per-game, http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/touchbacks-per-game) while 49% of punt attempts result in fair catches (source: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/returning/position/defense). The punt stat ignores kicks that go out of bounds or through the endzone, so surely that number is higher.
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Gblock
Dec 6, 2012 3:46pm
not usually the ball carrier that gets hurt...i think its more concerned with the wedge/wedgebusters etc.. punts seem way to easy to return for td's. i dont think i like this
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Dec 6, 2012 3:48pm
Agreed.Gblock;1337534 wrote:not usually the ball carrier that gets hurt...i think its more concerned with the wedge/wedgebusters etc.....
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 6, 2012 3:55pm
While ignoring minor details like, as Ed Reed said, Thursday night games where teams only have three days off to recover between contests show a more blatant disregard for player health and safety than most any action that actually happens on the field during games.Con_Alma;1337532 wrote:It's help building the case that the NFL is taking another "reasonable step" to protect players against concussions so if/when they are sued they can have a list of activities in their file.
Look for this step to be put into HS rules in the future also.
Goodell's a worthless piece of shit who cares about player safety as far as it effects the potential for lawsuits.
IBleedRed
Posts: 14
Dec 6, 2012 3:59pm
A lot of players aren't doing themselves any favors though if it does go to court when they are quoted as saying that they would lie to medical staff about being concussed so that they can stay in a game.Heretic;1337536 wrote:While ignoring minor details like, as Ed Reed said, Thursday night games where teams only have three days off to recover between contests show a more blatant disregard for player health and safety than most any action that actually happens on the field during games.
Goodell's a worthless piece of **** who cares about player safety as far as it effects the potential for lawsuits.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Dec 6, 2012 5:18pm
Quit F'in with the game!