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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 11:24am
i put love at 3 and moved everybody down a spot. who goes on the top 25 list next?
sleeper
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Dec 6, 2012 11:27am
Rondo, then Westbrook, then Randolph.
sleeper
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Dec 6, 2012 11:28am
Name an elite scoring SG besides Kobe that ever shot 3-19 in a game.gport_tennis;1337372 wrote:We are not going to settle this. I think Harden is a top 25 player right now. Not in the future, not 3 years down the road, right now he is a top 25 player. He is an elite scoring guard/forward that can defend at a very high level. This is all right now. This is not what I think he will or could be. This is all right now.
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 11:55am
dwayne wade: 05-17-12, 37 minutes played, shot 2-13, 5 points, 5 rebounds, 1 asst, 1 stl, 2 blk, 5 TO, in a 75-94 loss to the pacerssleeper;1337377 wrote:Name an elite scoring SG besides Kobe that ever shot 3-19 in a game.
James Harden: 12-4-12, 37 minutes played, shot 3-19, 15 pts, 10 rebounds, 6 asst, 1 stl, 0 blk, 4 TO in a 107-105 win over the lakers
Russell westbrook: 4-22-12, 47 minutes played, shot 3-22, 14 pts, 4 rebounds, 10 asst, 1 stl, o blk, 3 to in a 114-106 loss to the lakers
who had the worst game?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 12:07pm
1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Paul
5. Rose (he might be 3 but been out forever)
6. Wade
7. Love
8. Rondo
9. Howard
10. Westbrook
11. Carmelo
12. Randolph
13. Deron Williams
14. Aldridge
15. Kyrie
16. Duncan
17. Pierce
18. Bosh
19. Gay
20. Varejao
21. Duncan
22. Ellis
23. Harden
24. Johnson
25. Griffin
Dirk will have a spot somewhere if he ever comes back.
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Paul
5. Rose (he might be 3 but been out forever)
6. Wade
7. Love
8. Rondo
9. Howard
10. Westbrook
11. Carmelo
12. Randolph
13. Deron Williams
14. Aldridge
15. Kyrie
16. Duncan
17. Pierce
18. Bosh
19. Gay
20. Varejao
21. Duncan
22. Ellis
23. Harden
24. Johnson
25. Griffin
Dirk will have a spot somewhere if he ever comes back.
sleeper
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Dec 6, 2012 12:26pm
Nice. :thumbup:gport_tennis;1337384 wrote:dwayne wade: 05-17-12, 37 minutes played, shot 2-13, 5 points, 5 rebounds, 1 asst, 1 stl, 2 blk, 5 TO, in a 75-94 loss to the pacers
James Harden: 12-4-12, 37 minutes played, shot 3-19, 15 pts, 10 rebounds, 6 asst, 1 stl, 0 blk, 4 TO in a 107-105 win over the lakers
Russell westbrook: 4-22-12, 47 minutes played, shot 3-22, 14 pts, 4 rebounds, 10 asst, 1 stl, o blk, 3 to in a 114-106 loss to the lakers
who had the worst game?
Pick6
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Dec 6, 2012 12:26pm
OJ Mayo is a top 25 player guys
lhslep134
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Dec 6, 2012 12:34pm
James Harden is one of the 25 best basketball players in the league, stats are unnecessary to validate that, and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand how the game is played. That simple.
Sleeper, I wholeheartedly disagree with you requiring a full seasons worth of stats to validate his skill. If the skills there, the skills there, and it is with Harden.
That's the last thing I say about Harden, on this thread or any other.
I personally feel that if you don't think he's a top 25 player you're ignorant to the game of basketball. This statement mainly refers to HB who thinks JH is nowhere close.
Sleeper, I wholeheartedly disagree with you requiring a full seasons worth of stats to validate his skill. If the skills there, the skills there, and it is with Harden.
That's the last thing I say about Harden, on this thread or any other.
I personally feel that if you don't think he's a top 25 player you're ignorant to the game of basketball. This statement mainly refers to HB who thinks JH is nowhere close.
Ironman92
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Dec 6, 2012 1:20pm
Pick6;1337217 wrote:1. Lebron
2. KD
3. Kevin Love
4. Chris Paul
5. Kobe
6. Rondo
7. Howard
8. Westbrook
9. Z Randolph
10. D Williams
11. D Rose
12. Melo
13. Kyrie
14. Wade
15. Dirk
16. Aldridge
17. Ellis
18. Gay
19. Jennings
20. Josh Smith
21. Varejao
22. Duncan
23. J. Johnson
24. Pierce
25. Granger
Lol? Were you kidding or what? You don't have Mayo either. Mayo is very near my list.....he continues a little longer and he'll be on mine somewhere.
Pick6
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Dec 6, 2012 1:21pm
I was using Gport's logic.Ironman92;1337428 wrote:Lol? Were you kidding or what? You don't have Mayo either. Mayo is very near my list.....he continues a little longer and he'll be on mine somewhere.
Ironman92
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Dec 6, 2012 1:50pm
sleeper;1337352 wrote:Also, Kevin Love is the 3rd best player in the league, not Kobe. Kobe is 5th at best.
Noted.....you are one of those too fuckin good to contribute your list but you can have all the quick fixes of everyone elses.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2012 2:00pm
I'm in the boat with pick6. After about 15 players it becomes too hard to differentiate between players.Ironman92;1337448 wrote:Noted.....you are one of those too fuckin good to contribute your list but you can have all the quick fixes of everyone elses.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Love
4. CP3
5. Kobe
That's the indisputable list.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 6, 2012 2:08pm
sleeper;1337451 wrote:I'm in the boat with pick6. After about 15 players it becomes too hard to differentiate between players.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Love
4. CP3
5. Kobe
That's the indisputable list.
I had to debate things after the top 2.....I went back and forth with #3-#5 and then every few spots. Where to put the oldies but great, the injured, the young. For me everything outside the top 2 is debatable. Maybe I'm giving Kobe too much credit too far back....but I still see him getting it done pretty well.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 6, 2012 2:10pm
Yeah Kobe is still playing at a high level but he isn't a better player right now than the top 4.Ironman92;1337452 wrote:I had to debate things after the top 2.....I went back and forth with #3-#5 and then every few spots. Where to put the oldies but great, the injured, the young. For me everything outside the top 2 is debatable. Maybe I'm giving Kobe too much credit too far back....but I still see him getting it done pretty well.
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 2:13pm
and what is my logic?Pick6;1337431 wrote:I was using Gport's logic.
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 2:16pm
Melo at #7? I am really impressed with how well he is playing this year. he has been a top 15-20 overall player for a long time but his defense seems to have been improved and much more efficient offensively.
btw for the official list I am not putting injured players. so no rose or dirk.
btw for the official list I am not putting injured players. so no rose or dirk.
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 2:19pm
I dont know why the number 25... but that's the number thrown around here most.dazedconfused;1337228 wrote:what does top 25 matter?
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 2:22pm
rondo, d will, howard at 8?
sleeper
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Dec 6, 2012 2:26pm
Howard isn't a top 10 player. Overrated.gport_tennis;1337460 wrote:rondo, d will, howard at 8?
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 5:32pm
top 10 agreeable?
sleeper
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Dec 6, 2012 7:23pm
Swap Westbrook and Wade. And melo and Randolph.
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 8:05pm
ccrunner609;1337631 wrote:one thing I know.....the NBA is in a state of patheticness if this is the currrent top 25 players.
Now that the cross country coach has spoken. Does anybody who knows basketball care to comment
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 8:17pm
ccrunner609;1337642 wrote:Whats funny is that I have forgotten more about bball then you will ever know.
Educate me on what is so wrong with basketball players today
Ironman92
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Dec 6, 2012 8:37pm
gport_tennis;1337635 wrote:Now that the cross country coach has spoken. Does anybody who knows basketball care to comment
FYI....A cross country coach had spoken already.
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gport_tennis
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Dec 6, 2012 9:01pm
that's debatable. but I would rather your opinion on who is the top 25 players today. agree with the top 10?ccrunner609;1337650 wrote:Players today??? The NBA has less marque players today then ever before.