Man executes two teens for breaking into home on Thanksgiving

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Dec 1, 2012 10:59 PM
WebFire;1334330 wrote:LOL, snapping doesn't make it ok.
I didn't say it made everything OK -- all along I have said that the man handled the situation poorly after the initial shots -- but the severe emotional distress he was obviously under and the terror-filled nights he was confronted with every time he went to sleep certainly help you understand why he might have done it. It does for me at least. This guy was put in a terrible situation and must have thought there would never be an end to his torture. So, when he shot the two intruders and saw them lying there, he decided to finish them off before they ever did the same to him.

I get that we don't live in the wild west anymore. But you know what, this guy had enough of this shit. What will happen to him, I don't know. But I hope God has mercy on him.
Dec 1, 2012 10:59pm
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Dec 1, 2012 11:06 PM
Then why do you hope he gets off easy? Sounds to me like you think it's ok. You also seemed to put a lot of words in his mouth. Where did he say he was terrified? I think there are a lot of assumptions going on here.
Dec 1, 2012 11:06pm
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Dec 1, 2012 11:24 PM
WebFire;1334339 wrote:Then why do you hope he gets off easy? Sounds to me like you think it's ok. You also seemed to put a lot of words in his mouth. Where did he say he was terrified? I think there are a lot of assumptions going on here.
There are a lot of assumptions going on from both sides of the argument.

Bottom line: I think he felt he had no other choice but to finish these people off, as he admitted to the police. Maybe as they lay there on his floor, he all of a sudden felt that he could still be in danger, that they might awake and pull out guns. It was dark, he was probably shaken and your mind can certainly play tricks on you. Who really knows. I feel bad for the guy, though, I do know that. I feel bad for him because, had his house not been invaded by robbers so many times, none of this would ever have happened. I don't know the man, but I doubt he ever in a million years had thought about murdering somebody before this sad turn of events.

It's a sad situation all around.
Dec 1, 2012 11:24pm
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Dec 1, 2012 11:37 PM
WebFire;1334339 wrote:Then why do you hope he gets off easy? Sounds to me like you think it's ok. You also seemed to put a lot of words in his mouth. Where did he say he was terrified? I think there are a lot of assumptions going on here.
They tortured him and targeted him, and it's not good," Lange said. "If you've been broken into one time, that would be enough. But it's terrible."
Dec 1, 2012 11:37pm
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Dec 1, 2012 11:40 PM
isadore;1334353 wrote:They tortured him and targeted him, and it's not good," Lange said. "If you've been broken into one time, that would be enough. But it's terrible."
I would like to know more about that. If they are referring to this being the same people breaking in every time, then there would be charges pressed. Does seem odd.
Dec 1, 2012 11:40pm
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Dec 1, 2012 11:48 PM
WebFire;1334355 wrote:I would like to know more about that. If they are referring to this being the same people breaking in every time, then there would be charges pressed. Does seem odd.
this is small community, these young thugs are the same or are all know each other and found a victim.
Dec 1, 2012 11:48pm
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Dec 2, 2012 12:06 AM
isadore;1334361 wrote:...these young thugs....
They were white. Probably why they weren't or didn't know they could live off the gubmit.

/sleeper'd
Dec 2, 2012 12:06am
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Dec 2, 2012 12:09 AM
reclegend22;1334307 wrote: And as for something such as a bright outdoor light, how do you know that he doesn't have one? My guess is that you don't.
How do you know he did? My guess is you don't.

It's pretty obvious that he was targeted multiple times because
1) it was easy
2) the fucking moron kept $10k in cash lying around.

That's all practically hanging up a sign that says "come rob me". He's obviously not real bright and probably barely competent, if not legally retarded.
Dec 2, 2012 12:09am
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Dec 2, 2012 12:21 AM
gut;1334381 wrote:They were white. Probably why they weren't or didn't know they could live off the gubmit.

/sleeper'd
how unbelieveably racist of you, but hardly a surprise. Just another example of the primary motivation for the opposition to our first African American President.
Dec 2, 2012 12:21am
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Dec 2, 2012 12:23 AM
reclegend22;1334343 wrote: Bottom line: I think he felt he had no other choice but to finish these people off, as he admitted to the police. Maybe as they lay there on his floor, he all of a sudden felt that he could still be in danger, that they might awake and pull out guns. It was dark, he was probably shaken and your mind can certainly play tricks on you.
What he admitted was that it pissed him off when the chic laughed at him for his gun jamming, so he put a gun to her chin and blew her brains out. That is point blank. If you're that close, you aren't scared of anything.

Also, not sure that it was dark. I realize it was supposedly a basement, but it was the middle of the day and obviously he could see clearly enough to shoot them coming down the steps.

isadore;1334353 wrote:They tortured him and targeted him, and it's not good," Lange said. "If you've been broken into one time, that would be enough. But it's terrible."
Isn't that the guy's attorney being quoted? Thought I read that the guy has claimed to have been robbed multiple times, but he only filed one report. His lawyer certainly has motivation to oversell whatever had previously happened.
Dec 2, 2012 12:23am
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Dec 2, 2012 12:28 AM
gut;1334384 wrote:How do you know he did? My guess is you don't.

It's pretty obvious that he was targeted multiple times because
1) it was easy
2) the ****ing moron kept $10k in cash lying around.

That's all practically hanging up a sign that says "come rob me". He's obviously not real bright and probably barely competent, if not legally retarded.
you suffering from lack of reading comprehension. the ten thousand was not in cash but
"Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, said about $10,000 worth of guns, electronic gear and cash were stolen in October."
and Mr Smith was hardly retarded or lacking in knowledge of security measures
"Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune told the Star Tribune his brother had retired after a career as a security officer with the U.S. State Department.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/haile-kifer-nicholas-schaeffel-murder_n_2192982.html
　
he was an old man who was a victim of scum, faile by law enforcement who took the only measure available to him to have justice.
Dec 2, 2012 12:28am
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Dec 2, 2012 1:04 AM
enigmaax;1334395 wrote:What he admitted was that it pissed him off when the chic laughed at him for his gun jamming, so he put a gun to her chin and blew her brains out. That is point blank. If you're that close, you aren't scared of anything.

Also, not sure that it was dark. I realize it was supposedly a basement, but it was the middle of the day and obviously he could see clearly enough to shoot them coming down the steps.




Isn't that the guy's attorney being quoted? Thought I read that the guy has claimed to have been robbed multiple times, but he only filed one report. His lawyer certainly has motivation to oversell whatever had previously happened.
if you check the source it is not his attorney.
Dec 2, 2012 1:04am
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Dec 2, 2012 3:50 AM
isadore;1334009 wrote:7 breakins
they keep coming back
they harassed and tortured him
october $10,000 stolen
"no suspects"
gosh a failure of the law
LMAO...can't make this shit up
Dec 2, 2012 3:50am
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Dec 2, 2012 2:47 PM
Maybe criminals should understand one thing before they break in to someones home.

Dec 2, 2012 2:47pm
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Dec 3, 2012 12:05 AM
isadore;1334361 wrote:this is small community, these young thugs are the same or are all know each other and found a victim.
isadore;1334392 wrote:how unbelieveably racist of you, but hardly a surprise. Just another example of the primary motivation for the opposition to our first African American President.
isadore;1334397 wrote:you suffering from lack of reading comprehension. the ten thousand was not in cash but
"Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, said about $10,000 worth of guns, electronic gear and cash were stolen in October."
and Mr Smith was hardly retarded or lacking in knowledge of security measures
"Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune told the Star Tribune his brother had retired after a career as a security officer with the U.S. State Department.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/haile-kifer-nicholas-schaeffel-murder_n_2192982.html
　
he was an old man who was a victim of scum, faile by law enforcement who took the only measure available to him to have justice.
isadore;1334408 wrote:if you check the source it is not his attorney.
http://www.ywgrossman.com/photoblog/?p=676%2F
Dec 3, 2012 12:05am
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Dec 3, 2012 12:35 AM
I like this part: " Before pit bulls it was Rottweilers, before Rottweilers it was Dobermans, and before them German Shepherds. Each breed in it’s order were deemed too vicious and unpredictable to be around people. Each time people wanted laws to ban them."
Dec 3, 2012 12:35am
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Dec 3, 2012 7:52 AM
I Wear Pants;1335308 wrote:I like this part: " Before pit bulls it was Rottweilers, before Rottweilers it was Dobermans, and before them German Shepherds. Each breed in it’s order were deemed too vicious and unpredictable to be around people. Each time people wanted laws to ban them."
The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 7-year period. From 2005 to 2011, pit bulls killed 128 Americans, about one citizen every 20 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 29; about one citizen every 88 days.
Dec 3, 2012 7:52am
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Dec 3, 2012 5:36 PM
isadore;1334392 wrote:how unbelieveably racist of you, but hardly a surprise. Just another example of the primary motivation for the opposition to our first African American President.
Nope, when I look at the POTUS I don't see an African American I see failure. The fact you constantly refer to him in such manner only serves to illustrate that it's his only noteworthy accomplishment.
Dec 3, 2012 5:36pm
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Dec 3, 2012 6:17 PM
gut;1335717 wrote:Nope, when I look at the POTUS I don't see an African American I see failure. The fact you constantly refer to him in such manner only serves to illustrate that it's his only noteworthy accomplishment.
gut wrote: They were white. Probably why they weren't or didn't know they could live off the gubmit.
Of course a person with that racist attitude could never acknowledge the great leadership of our first African American President.
Dec 3, 2012 6:17pm
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Dec 3, 2012 6:39 PM
Of course a person with a racist attitude would always refer to the POTUS as our first African American president.
Dec 3, 2012 6:39pm
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Dec 3, 2012 6:53 PM
Oh sweet jesus...fuck this "isadore ruins ever discussion by being a fucking idiot troll" bullshit. Thread-bant.
Dec 3, 2012 6:53pm
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Dec 3, 2012 9:09 PM
Heretic;1335749 wrote:Oh sweet jesus...fuck this "isadore ruins ever discussion by being a fucking idiot troll" bullshit. Thread-bant.
LMAO, reps.
Dec 3, 2012 9:09pm
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Dec 3, 2012 10:35 PM
Heretic;1335749 wrote:Oh sweet jesus...**** this "isadore ruins ever discussion by being a ****ing idiot troll" bull****. Thread-bant.
Like being bukkaked with mental diarrhea.
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Dec 5, 2012 2:19 AM
isadore;1335354 wrote:The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 7-year period. From 2005 to 2011, pit bulls killed 128 Americans, about one citizen every 20 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 29; about one citizen every 88 days.
I don't know if that's really statistically significant. There has to be what, at least several hundred thousand of each breed probably? That's a pretty small percentage difference.
Dec 5, 2012 2:19am