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Nov 25, 2012 9:58 PM
After the rough start, holy hell did he have a phenomenal year. Good chance he'll be a 1st Team AA, 1st Team B1G, and possibly B1G Defensive POTY if Simon doesn't get it.

-115 Tackles (70 solo, 45 assisted)
-17 TFL
-5 Sacks
-1 INT 1 TD
-10 PBU
-3 FF
Nov 25, 2012 9:58pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:02 PM
Best in the nation.
Nov 25, 2012 10:02pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:04 PM
I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
Nov 25, 2012 10:04pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:05 PM
slingshot4ever;1329186 wrote:I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT
That's all T'eo has him beat in.
Nov 25, 2012 10:05pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:07 PM
slingshot4ever;1329186 wrote:I'm curious how Teo line matches up. I know Teo has him beat with INT

And they also play different positions in different schemes. I would expect them not to match up. Kind of pointless to compare them really. A better comparison to shazier would be Jarvis jones
Nov 25, 2012 10:07pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:12 PM
He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.
Nov 25, 2012 10:12pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:14 PM
He's the best LB in the country and its not even close.
Nov 25, 2012 10:14pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:14 PM
Pick6;1329195 wrote:He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.

He might, I think jones missed 2 games though
Nov 25, 2012 10:14pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:15 PM
Great linebacker on a good defense, he'll be a frontrunner for next year's Lombardi Award.
Nov 25, 2012 10:15pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:19 PM
Pick6;1329195 wrote:He has Jarvis Jones beat in every stat, I believe.

Jones
71 tackles
19.5 TFL
10.5 sacks
1 INT
2 PBU
6 forced fumbles

In 10 games
Nov 25, 2012 10:19pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:27 PM
karen lotz;1329205 wrote:Jones
71 tackles
19.5 TFL
10.5 sacks
1 INT
2 PBU
6 forced fumbles

In 10 games
Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
Nov 25, 2012 10:27pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:35 PM
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.

I actually didn't compare anyone. Pick said he thought Shazier had better numbers in every category. Do you have trouble with reading?
Nov 25, 2012 10:35pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:41 PM
karen lotz;1329212 wrote:I actually didn't compare anyone. Pick said he thought Shazier had better numbers in every category. Do you have trouble with reading?
I misread, my mistake. No need to act like a typical ND douche.
Nov 25, 2012 10:41pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:44 PM
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.

Georgia likes to run a lot of 4 man fronts though also. But jones a lot of the time is that speed pass rusher. I guess I shouldn't have chosen jones but he was the closest I could think of in terms of their responsibilities
Nov 25, 2012 10:44pm
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Nov 25, 2012 10:51 PM
End of Line;1329214 wrote:I misread, my mistake. No need to act like a typical ND douche.
hmmmmm...
End of Line;1329209 wrote:Tough to compare a 3-4 OLB to a 4-3 OLB. Like a 3-4 MLB to a 4-3 OLB.
Nov 25, 2012 10:51pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:03 PM
I don't like to get into these OSU-ND pissing matches but if we're looking at things just based on stats...Taylor Martinez should have been every bit the Heisman candidate that Braxton Miller was if not moreso.
Nov 25, 2012 11:03pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:03 PM
killer_ewok;1329231 wrote:I don't like to get into these OSU-ND pissing matches but if we're looking at things just based on stats...Taylor Martinez should have been every bit the Heisman candidate that Braxton Miller was if not moreso.
And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?
Nov 25, 2012 11:03pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:05 PM
sleeper;1329232 wrote:And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?

Texas A&M hasn't lost?
Nov 25, 2012 11:05pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:05 PM
sleeper;1329232 wrote:And what undefeated team does Taylor Martinez play for?

Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know.
Nov 25, 2012 11:05pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:08 PM
killer_ewok;1329234 wrote:Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know.
Here's a stat for you; Only 1 defensive player has won the Heisman in its history. Do you really think Te'o is better than Suh or Honey Badger? They didn't win it, Te'o won't win it, and ND will be 0-4 in BCS bowls come January. Fact.
Nov 25, 2012 11:08pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:10 PM
karen lotz;1329233 wrote:Texas A&M hasn't lost?
This is about Shazier; the best LB in the country.
Nov 25, 2012 11:10pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:11 PM
sleeper;1329236 wrote:Here's a stat for you; Only 1 defensive player has won the Heisman in its history. Do you really think Te'o is better than Suh or Honey Badger? They didn't win it, Te'o won't win it, and ND will be 0-4 in BCS bowls come January. Fact.

Not fact at this point, just your opinion and that is a fact. Also, Te'o and the other Heisman candidates aren't up against Suh and Honey Badger as they were not college football players this season so that is neither here nor there.
Nov 25, 2012 11:11pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:11 PM
killer_ewok;1329234 wrote:Oh, so it's not just about stats anymore? Good to know.
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Nov 25, 2012 11:11pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:16 PM
I'll say this....Shazier is a very good player. I just don't think he's as good as Te'o. If you are using stats to say that he is...then that works both ways and Taylor Martinez deserves just as much Heisman hype as Braxton Miller.
Nov 25, 2012 11:16pm
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Nov 25, 2012 11:22 PM
Who said Shazier should or is getting Heisman hype?
Nov 25, 2012 11:22pm