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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 15, 2013 1:45pm
Senate Dems 'repeatedly and publicly' pressured IRS to investigate conservative groups...gut;1443261 wrote:And I don't know if Karl Rove was making it up, but he was saying something about Democrats writing to the IRS back in 2009 or something demanding the IRS investigate these companies.
Carl Levin wrote letters... [HR][/HR]
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 15, 2013 3:04pm
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 15, 2013 3:52pm
Not sure how high this will go, but there's lots of smoke here. One might attempt to claim it was an "honest mistake" stemming from poor oversight, but when you look at some of the info they were seeking there was clearly a political motivation (even if that were to begin and end with a few "low level" employees).
I just don't see a career agent doing this without direction, stated or otherwise, from above.
I still say the culture and divisive rhetoric this administration - and other Dems and complicit media - have pushed encouraged this sort of behavior. It would not shock me that low level agents took it upon themselves and believed they were completely in the right to target the "financial taliban".
Fair or not, the buck stops with the POTUS. Always has. Although Obama, as often discussed, may be different. Benghazi and the IRS - these are direct results of how Obama has "led" by example.
I just don't see a career agent doing this without direction, stated or otherwise, from above.
I still say the culture and divisive rhetoric this administration - and other Dems and complicit media - have pushed encouraged this sort of behavior. It would not shock me that low level agents took it upon themselves and believed they were completely in the right to target the "financial taliban".
Fair or not, the buck stops with the POTUS. Always has. Although Obama, as often discussed, may be different. Benghazi and the IRS - these are direct results of how Obama has "led" by example.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 15, 2013 5:09pm
RANGEL TO OBAMA: Come clean...
Now that is funny[HR][/HR]
Now that is funny[HR][/HR]

believer
Posts: 8,153
May 15, 2013 5:11pm
haha Like the pot calling the kettle black.QuakerOats;1443380 wrote:RANGEL TO OBAMA: Come clean...
Now that is funny
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 15, 2013 5:16pm
It's interesting to me there's plenty of ways to justify siding with Obama - I actually think he is likely more culpable with Benghazi, but that's just "political".believer;1443383 wrote:haha Like the pot calling the kettle black.
Rats jumping off a sinking ship. They don't want to be remotely associated with the crap about to rain down on this administration - justified or not. This all will likely spill over into the 2014 elections, and it's going to be tough to defend the POTUS on this on the campaign trail.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 15, 2013 6:16pm
Obama to speak on the IRS scandal in a minute. Can't wait to hear this :rolleyes:
Also had to LOL @ this article:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/15/1209313/-The-IRS-scandal-all-smoke-no-fire
Also had to LOL @ this article:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/15/1209313/-The-IRS-scandal-all-smoke-no-fire

majorspark
Posts: 5,122
May 15, 2013 7:22pm
Don't worry guys Eric Holder is going to get to the bottom of this IRS scandal.

fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 15, 2013 7:29pm
LOL.
Leave it to Obie to fire the guy who wasn't even in charge when the offenses were committed.
He's all over this thing. :laugh:
Leave it to Obie to fire the guy who wasn't even in charge when the offenses were committed.
He's all over this thing. :laugh:
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 15, 2013 7:38pm
Embarrassing performance equalled only by Rep. Issa and his lapdog, Rep. Jordan.
Edit: Goes without saying, Rep. Jackson-Lee was her normal clown show.
Edit: Goes without saying, Rep. Jackson-Lee was her normal clown show.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 15, 2013 7:51pm
Sounds like the latest strategy is to release the Benghazi emails and then deny that there's a there there.
"See, we released the emails, we have nothing to hide"
"But this proves you lied"
"No it doesn't, why would we release the emails if that were the case? duhhhh"
"See, we released the emails, we have nothing to hide"
"But this proves you lied"
"No it doesn't, why would we release the emails if that were the case? duhhhh"

fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 15, 2013 7:54pm
Agreed. Issa needs to dial it back a tad.queencitybuckeye;1443444 wrote:Embarrassing performance equalled only by Rep. Issa and his lapdog, Rep. Jordan.
Edit: Goes without saying, Rep. Jackson-Lee was her normal clown show.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 15, 2013 9:04pm
Maybe we need to go four separate threads:
IRS tyranny
AP spying
Benghazi horror
Obamacare disaster
Then leave this thread for all the other massive failures: debt/deficits, horrific unemployment, anti-growth policies, assaults on private enterprise, illegal recess appointments, marxist tendencies, and other general disgraces.
IRS tyranny
AP spying
Benghazi horror
Obamacare disaster
Then leave this thread for all the other massive failures: debt/deficits, horrific unemployment, anti-growth policies, assaults on private enterprise, illegal recess appointments, marxist tendencies, and other general disgraces.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 15, 2013 9:38pm
Obama is bringing the country together uniting against his failure and incompetence.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 15, 2013 9:48pm
Simply beyond belief:
The director of the Office of Rulings and Agreements, which oversees the determinatons of tax-exempt organizations, is a donor to Barack Obama. Holly Paz donated $2,000 to Obama’s 2008 campaign, according to Open Secrets, which maintains a database of individual political donations.
An inspector general’s report released yesterday concluded that the IRS improperly targeted Tea Party and other conservative groups for undue scrutiny, and Paz heads the office in which the wrongdoing is said to have occurred. National Review Online reported earlier today that agency officials are currently copying the hard drives of every employee on Paz’s watch. That data will be made available to investigators working on a second IG investigation focusing on the potential criminal activity individual agency employees.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/348441/director-irs-tax-exempt-determinations-office-obama-donor-eliana-johnson
The director of the Office of Rulings and Agreements, which oversees the determinatons of tax-exempt organizations, is a donor to Barack Obama. Holly Paz donated $2,000 to Obama’s 2008 campaign, according to Open Secrets, which maintains a database of individual political donations.
An inspector general’s report released yesterday concluded that the IRS improperly targeted Tea Party and other conservative groups for undue scrutiny, and Paz heads the office in which the wrongdoing is said to have occurred. National Review Online reported earlier today that agency officials are currently copying the hard drives of every employee on Paz’s watch. That data will be made available to investigators working on a second IG investigation focusing on the potential criminal activity individual agency employees.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/348441/director-irs-tax-exempt-determinations-office-obama-donor-eliana-johnson

majorspark
Posts: 5,122
May 15, 2013 9:50pm
You keep posting this stuff and the IRS is going to have a few questions for you.QuakerOats;1443495 wrote:Simply beyond belief:
The director of the Office of Rulings and Agreements, which oversees the determinatons of tax-exempt organizations, is a donor to Barack Obama. Holly Paz donated $2,000 to Obama’s 2008 campaign, according to Open Secrets, which maintains a database of individual political donations.
An inspector general’s report released yesterday concluded that the IRS improperly targeted Tea Party and other conservative groups for undue scrutiny, and Paz heads the office in which the wrongdoing is said to have occurred. National Review Online reported earlier today that agency officials are currently copying the hard drives of every employee on Paz’s watch. That data will be made available to investigators working on a second IG investigation focusing on the potential criminal activity individual agency employees.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/348441/director-irs-tax-exempt-determinations-office-obama-donor-eliana-johnson

majorspark
Posts: 5,122
May 15, 2013 9:58pm
LOL. I had not thought of this angle. But it is actually quite true. Oh the irony.gut;1443491 wrote:Obama is bringing the country together uniting against his failure and incompetence.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 16, 2013 2:24pm
majorspark;1443497 wrote:You keep posting this stuff and the IRS is going to have a few questions for you.
no doubt ........... and what about this guy?
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/05/caption-the-photo-eagles-ol-evan-mathis-peeing-on-irs-building-sign/
I am now an Eagles' fan.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
May 16, 2013 7:27pm
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/irs-official-in-charge-during-tea-party-targeting-now-runs-health-care-office/
It just gets uglier and uglier
It just gets uglier and uglier

tk421
Posts: 8,500
May 16, 2013 8:46pm
So, is Obama the quickest lame duck President ever? Not even half way through the first year of his second term. Unless the Dems miraculously take back control of the House, don't expect very much to happen with Obama's second term.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
May 16, 2013 10:05pm
Actually was one of my 1st thoughts ha.majorspark;1443502 wrote:LOL. I had not thought of this angle. But it is actually quite true. Oh the irony.
Yeah, seems like it.tk421;1443988 wrote:So, is Obama the quickest lame duck President ever? Not even half way through the first year of his second term. Unless the Dems miraculously take back control of the House, don't expect very much to happen with Obama's second term.
But, he still has sway in the foreign policy realm. So, I expect him to dive into that more in the coming months to next year.
Expect more with Syria, Russia, Iran, the Middle East, etc.
That is where he has way more power and areas to do what he wants.

believer
Posts: 8,153
May 17, 2013 12:58am
God help us.ptown_trojans_1;1444089 wrote:But, he still has sway in the foreign policy realm. So, I expect him to dive into that more in the coming months to next year.
Expect more with Syria, Russia, Iran, the Middle East, etc.
That is where he has way more power and areas to do what he wants.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 17, 2013 1:02am
Don't hold your breath. That presumes he has an ounce of leadership ability. This is normally where the community agitator would pack it up and move on to the next hood.ptown_trojans_1;1444089 wrote: But, he still has sway in the foreign policy realm. So, I expect him to dive into that more in the coming months to next year.
Expect more with Syria, Russia, Iran, the Middle East, etc.
That is where he has way more power and areas to do what he wants.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
May 17, 2013 2:03am
The White House has alot of idle time on its hands apparently.
Look at this juvenile response to an Eric Cantor tweet asking for 3 word responses on how people feel about Obamacare after the House voted to repeal it again.
Liberals are patting themselves on the back for Obama supposedly laying a smackdown on Cantor.
Look at this juvenile response to an Eric Cantor tweet asking for 3 word responses on how people feel about Obamacare after the House voted to repeal it again.
Liberals are patting themselves on the back for Obama supposedly laying a smackdown on Cantor.


fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 17, 2013 7:16am
Obie sucks at POTUS, but is awesome at the internets.