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rep mofobeliever;1629900 wrote:
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Is this one more to your liking?HelloAgain;1631062 wrote:If you're going to make a shitty meme/cartoon that's nothing more than a quote and a picture, at least spell the name right.
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Jun 28, 2014 4:43pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerumbeliever;1631142 wrote:Is this one more to your liking?
O-Trap
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Jun 28, 2014 11:47pm
In theory, in order for such an argument to qualify as argumentum ad Hitlerum, it has to be established that what is being compared is not, in fact, a just comparison.HelloAgain;1631227 wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum
I'm making no claim either way on the subject at hand. Just suggesting that, perhaps, you want to add a little snippet as to why this qualifies as argumentum ad Hitlerum.
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Jun 29, 2014 12:52am
Why?O-Trap;1631276 wrote:I'm making no claim either way on the subject at hand
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gut
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Jun 29, 2014 2:53am
I'm probably the most likely here to agree with you....and I have to say that looks like jibberish.O-Trap;1631276 wrote:In theory, in order for such an argument to qualify as argumentum ad Hitlerum, it has to be established that what is being compared is not, in fact, a just comparison.
I'm making no claim either way on the subject at hand. Just suggesting that, perhaps, you want to add a little snippet as to why this qualifies as argumentum ad Hitlerum.
O-Trap
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Jun 29, 2014 11:38pm
Because frankly, I don't give a shit either way.HelloAgain;1631291 wrote:Why?
Let me clarify:gut;1631329 wrote:I'm probably the most likely here to agree with you....and I have to say that looks like jibberish.
Argumentum ad Hitlerum is only fallacious if the comparison is not apt, at least in what is being compared.
My old high school's shop teacher had a moustache that looked like Hitler's. By comparing him to Hitler, am I making the aforementioned fallacy? I'd submit not for two reasons:
1. I can describe/demonstrate the similarity I've drawn, and
2. I am not implying any additional similarity based on the one I can describe.
If someone's ideology is, indeed, similar to Hitler's, then it is not fallacious to draw the comparison any more than it is for me to draw a comparison between my old school's shop teacher's moustache and Hitler's moustache.
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Jun 29, 2014 11:40pm
...O-Trap;1631527 wrote:Because frankly, I don't give a shit either way.
Certainly seems like it...Let me clarify:
Argumentum ad Hitlerum is only fallacious if the comparison is not apt, at least in what is being compared.
My old high school's shop teacher had a moustache that looked like Hitler's. By comparing him to Hitler, am I making the aforementioned fallacy? I'd submit not for two reasons:
1. I can describe/demonstrate the similarity I've drawn, and
2. I am not implying any additional similarity based on the one I can describe.
If someone's ideology is, indeed, similar to Hitler's, then it is not fallacious to draw the comparison any more than it is for me to draw a comparison between my old school's shop teacher's moustache and Hitler's moustache.
O-Trap
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Jun 29, 2014 11:45pm
I care about being clearly understood, to be sure. However, being clearly understood is not equitable to picking a side on the topic of whether or not a modern political character is aptly compared to Hitler.HelloAgain;1631528 wrote:...
Certainly seems like it...
So no, logically, it does not seem as though I care who is compared to who. I merely care to be clear and thorough in my articulation.
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Jun 30, 2014 12:04am
A lot of effort being put forth here. No one can accuse you of not grinding it out.O-Trap;1631530 wrote:I care about being clearly understood, to be sure. However, being clearly understood is not equitable to picking a side on the topic of whether or not a modern political character is aptly compared to Hitler.
So no, logically, it does not seem as though I care who is compared to who. I merely care to be clear and thorough in my articulation.
O-Trap
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Jun 30, 2014 12:40am
Don't worry. It's not really much effort. I tend to be thorough by nature, so it comes naturally, more or less.HelloAgain;1631533 wrote:A lot of effort being put forth here. No one can accuse you of not grinding it out.
TedSheckler
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Jun 30, 2014 5:30am
Riveting...
Now, less talkie, moar funny pics.
Now, less talkie, moar funny pics.
Devils Advocate
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Throne envy:
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HelloAgain;1631533 wrote:A lot of effort being put forth here. No one can accuse you of not grinding it out.
O-Trap;1631535 wrote:Don't worry. It's not really much effort. I tend to be thorough by nature, so it comes naturally, more or less.
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Killing innocent unborn human beings for purposes of convenience isn't amazing. Responsible birth control is however.
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