They asked for my ID in Hilliard todayderek bomar;1314686 wrote:side bar - why didn't we have to show ID at the polls in Ohio to vote?
I wanted him to win. I also think that given the same resources and exposure Romeny had that Gary Johnson could have really put up a good fight. Also as for someone else who actually ran, he would have been my third choice, I do think Jon Huntsman could have put up a good fight.Cleveland Buck;1314678 wrote:The GOP had a fiscally conservative, small government, peace candidate with a 30 year record of standing on those principles. Judging by those exit polls he would have destroyed Obama. Oh well. You live and learn I guess.
That's not the issue. They are losing this election because of OH and/or FL. They lost those states because of minorities and the poor/middle class. If they want to win another election they will need to pivot toward socialism.ts1227;1314677 wrote:Depends on if the party pulls its head out of its ass and stops alienating everyone not on the extreme right fringe before 2015 or not.
Doesn't matter, Obama won without FloridaQuakerOats;1314696 wrote:Will be interesting to know if a libertarian in FL took the 40,000 votes that Romney needs to win the state. Possible that a libertarian stands between a Romney win or an obama win. That would be a shame.
I didderek bomar;1314686 wrote:side bar - why didn't we have to show ID at the polls in Ohio to vote?
I think this would actually be a good thing ... at least a third party, in some capacity, would have had an impact on this election. A baby step toward third-party legitimacy would be a refreshing end result, in my opinion.QuakerOats;1314696 wrote:Will be interesting to know if a libertarian in FL took the 40,000 votes that Romney needs to win the state. Possible that a libertarian stands between a Romney win or an obama win. That would be a shame.
2014 won't matter either. I'm stunned that Obama was even in this race let alone actually win re-election after the last dismal 4 years. If this is acceptable to the American sheeple, then 2014 won't be any different.gut;1314692 wrote:That's not productive. That's not going to fix anything, and status quo won't cut it. Turn our eyes to 2014 I suppose.
My fingers are crossed that business throws in the towel and starts putting their cash to work. Waiting out Obama for a year or two is a lot different than 4 years with no clue what direction we go from there.
How is that a good thing? It will just make it that much easier for the Dems and their socialist agenda to win elections. That was the point some of us have been making all along.BigAppleBuckeye;1314705 wrote:I think this would actually be a good thing ... at least a third party, in some capacity, would have had an impact on this election. A baby step toward third-party legitimacy would be a refreshing end result, in my opinion.
Already onto loaded talking point words for 2016? That was fastgut;1314701 wrote:That's not the issue. They are losing this election because of OH and/or FL. They lost those states because of minorities and the poor/middle class. If they want to win another election they will need to pivot toward socialism.
It's more likely that the libertarian made it that close in the first place.QuakerOats;1314696 wrote:Will be interesting to know if a libertarian in FL took the 40,000 votes that Romney needs to win the state. Possible that a libertarian stands between a Romney win or an obama win. That would be a shame.
Preciselygut;1314708 wrote:How is that a good thing? It will just make it that much easier for the Dems and their socialist agenda to win elections. That was the point some of us have been making all along.
I am still an eternal optimist that some day this country will grow beyond the two party system ... but that is a story for another day.gut;1314708 wrote:How is that a good thing? It will just make it that much easier for the Dems and their socialist agenda to win elections. That was the point some of us have been making all along.
I actually don't understand any of the voter ID law. I've had to show my ID for every election since I've been voting.Classyposter58;1314704 wrote:I did
lol, not a chance that happens.BigAppleBuckeye;1314715 wrote:I am still an eternal optimist that some day this country will grow beyond the two party system ... but that is a story for another day.
As for tonight, that's game ... #Obama2012. Nice work Ohio.
I tried to show mine, and was told that I didn't need to. Same thing for my wife.osudarby08;1314697 wrote:They asked for my ID in Hilliard today
And women should never vote.tk421;1314717 wrote:lol, not a chance that happens.
It's not loaded talking points. Plenty said this in the prior weeks. That's why some of us viewed this election as so critical. It puts the US on what may be an irreversible path toward the European model. And as I've said many times, that means persistently high unemployment, large deficits, and stagnant growth.ts1227;1314712 wrote:Already onto loaded talking point words for 2016? That was fast
