se-alum;1381317 wrote:My predictions for the week. I think it will be a tough one for the Bucks. Oladipo definitely has the ability to slow Thomas down, and OSU doesn't have enough fire power to overcome a bad game by the only legit scorer they have. I also see UM winning by 10-15 at home coming off a tough loss to the Hoosiers.

Agree with your choices, sans the Michigan @ Wisconsin game. Although the Kohl Center is tough, I think Michigan is much better than Wisconsin and will overcome it to get the win.

Laley23;1380779 wrote:Till Thursday, when they beat Indiana. Im already bracing for it lol.

Just like how Purdue was gonna catch IU looking ahead............

I can see Illinois beating IU. Unlke the IU/Purdue game, IU vs UI isnt a huge big time rivalry (it was for awhile when BK and Henson were fueding and when IU stole a recruite from them) but it isntlike the Purdue rivalry where ya knew IU would be up for

My prediction as far as OSU is concerned: loses to tsun, beats IU.

Only way I see Illinois winning is if they shoot 40% or better from 3, and Indiana shoots 30% or worse.

IU averages 42% from 3, and shoots 18 per game, while UI averages 33% and shoots 24 a game.

Illinois shooting 24 3's and hitting 40% gives them an additional 5 points over their usual from beyond the arc, and Indiana shooting 18 3's and hitting 30% gives them about 7 points under their usual, or a 12-point swing overall.

But, UI doesn't defend well beyond the arc so I don't quite see it happening. Signs point to a pretty big win for IU for me.

thavoice;1381371 wrote:Just like how Purdue was gonna catch IU looking ahead............

I can see Illinois beating IU. Unlke the IU/Purdue game, IU vs UI isnt a huge big time rivalry (it was for awhile when BK and Henson were fueding and when IU stole a recruite from them) but it isntlike the Purdue rivalry where ya knew IU would be up for

Biggest difference between Illinois and Purdue is the fact that Illinois has guys that are capable of lighting it up. I don't expect it, but they could get hot and pull off the upset. I don't think Purdue has anyone capable of that.

se-alum;1381392 wrote:Biggest difference between Illinois and Purdue is the fact that Illinois has guys that are capable of lighting it up. I don't expect it, but they could get hot and pull off the upset. I don't think Purdue has anyone capable of that.

Exactly, two of their three big wins (Butler, Gonzaga) they were shooting really well from beyond the arc (40%, 42%) and the third (Ohio State) the opposing team shot like crap.

Newest AP Poll is out:

#1 Indiana
#3 Michigan
#10 Ohio State
#12 Michigan State
#18 Minnesota
#31 Wisconsin

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/polls/?eref=sinav

thavoice;1381371 wrote:Just like how Purdue was gonna catch IU looking ahead............

I can see Illinois beating IU. Unlke the IU/Purdue game, IU vs UI isnt a huge big time rivalry (it was for awhile when BK and Henson were fueding and when IU stole a recruite from them) but it isntlike the Purdue rivalry where ya knew IU would be up for

I thought IU would win that by double digits because they wouldnt be looking ahead of Purdue.

gorocks99;1381444 wrote:Newest AP Poll is out:

#1 Indiana
#3 Michigan
#10 Ohio State
#12 Michigan State
#18 Minnesota
#31 Wisconsin

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/ncaa/men/polls/?eref=sinav

Damn....Minnesota jumped 5 after barely squeaking by Iowa at home? Who else did they beat last week?

Ironman92;1381805 wrote:Damn....Minnesota jumped 5 after barely squeaking by Iowa at home? Who else did they beat last week?

Nebraska, but to be fair, a lot of teams around them in the polls lost

Here is the remaining schedule for the top half of the B1G

Indiana
Thu, Feb 7	@Illinois	7:00 PM ET
Sun, Feb 10	@#10 Ohio State	1:00 PM ET	CBS
Wed, Feb 13	Nebraska	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sat, Feb 16	Purdue	2:00 PM ET
Tue, Feb 19	@#12 Michigan State	7:00 PM ET
Tue, Feb 26	@#18 Minnesota	7:00 PM ET
Sat, Mar 2	Iowa	7:30 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Tue, Mar 5	#10 Ohio State	9:00 PM ET
Sun, Mar 10	@#3 Michigan	TBD	CBS
Michigan
Tue, Feb 5	#10 Ohio State	9:00 PM ET
Sat, Feb 9	@Wisconsin	12:00 PM ET
Tue, Feb 12	@#12 Michigan State	9:00 PM ET
Sun, Feb 17	Penn State	12:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sun, Feb 24	Illinois	TBD	CBS
Wed, Feb 27	@Penn State	6:30 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sat, Mar 2	#12 Michigan State	5:15 PM ET
Wed, Mar 6	@Purdue	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sun, Mar 10	#1 Indiana	TBD	CBS
Michigan State
Wed, Feb 6	#18 Minnesota	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sat, Feb 9	@Purdue	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Tue, Feb 12	#3 Michigan	9:00 PM ET
Sat, Feb 16	@Nebraska	8:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Tue, Feb 19	#1 Indiana	7:00 PM ET
Sun, Feb 24	@#10 Ohio State	TBD	CBS
Sat, Mar 2	@#3 Michigan	5:15 PM ET
Thu, Mar 7	Wisconsin	9:00 PM ET
Sun, Mar 10	Northwestern	TBD	CBS
Ohio State
Tue, Feb 5	@#3 Michigan	9:00 PM ET
Sun, Feb 10	#1 Indiana	1:00 PM ET	CBS
Thu, Feb 14	Northwestern	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sun, Feb 17	@Wisconsin	1:00 PM ET	CBS
Wed, Feb 20	#18 Minnesota	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sun, Feb 24	#12 Michigan State	TBD	CBS
Thu, Feb 28	@Northwestern	7:00 PM ET
Tue, Mar 5	@#1 Indiana	9:00 PM ET
Sun, Mar 10	Illinois	TBD	CBS
Wisconsin
Wed, Feb 6	Iowa	9:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sat, Feb 9	#3 Michigan	12:00 PM ET
Thu, Feb 14	@#18 Minnesota	7:00 PM ET
Sun, Feb 17	#10 Ohio State	1:00 PM ET	CBS
Wed, Feb 20	@Northwestern	9:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Tue, Feb 26	Nebraska	9:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sat, Mar 2	Purdue	TBD
Thu, Mar 7	@#12 Michigan State	9:00 PM ET
Sun, Mar 10	@Penn State	12:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Minnesota
Wed, Feb 6	@#12 Michigan State	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sun, Feb 10	Illinois	6:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Thu, Feb 14	Wisconsin	7:00 PM ET
Sun, Feb 17	@Iowa	2:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Wed, Feb 20	@#10 Ohio State	7:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Tue, Feb 26	#1 Indiana	7:00 PM ET
Sat, Mar 2	Penn State	TBD
Wed, Mar 6	@Nebraska	9:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network
Sat, Mar 9	@Purdue	12:00 PM ET	Big Ten Network

thavoice;1381371 wrote:Just like how Purdue was gonna catch IU looking ahead............

I can see Illinois beating IU. Unlke the IU/Purdue game, IU vs UI isnt a huge big time rivalry (it was for awhile when BK and Henson were fueding and when IU stole a recruite from them) but it isntlike the Purdue rivalry where ya knew IU would be up for

I see Indiana losing to either Illinois or Ohio State. Simply because they're #1 and being #1 hasn't turned out too well for teams for that long this year.

Pretty good article regarding Craft and Burke.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/02/19337/michigan-trey-burke-the-one-that-got-away#more

Injecting too much energy into a personal rivalry also has possibly led to Burke’s lackluster play against the Buckeyes.
“It’s always in the back of your mind, but when you tend to make things personal in games like this, you tend not to play your best,” Craft said. “He’s still learning, he’s a sophomore.”
It was Craft’s sophomore year when he led Ohio State to within a blip of playing for the national championship. Might that ascent follow Burke and the Wolverines?
“Trey is a hard worker from a great family,” Craft said. “I’ve seen him be very successful at every level. We kind of grew up together and it’s great to see him have success.”
Burke would have enjoyed sharing that success with his childhood friend in his hometown. But now Craft is forced to hope Burke’s triumphs don’t come at the expense of Ohio State.

vball10set;1381961 wrote:Pretty good article regarding Craft and Burke.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2013/02/19337/michigan-trey-burke-the-one-that-got-away#more

I'd agree with that. In fact, I think the whole team does it against OSU. Nervous for tonight even at home.

WebFire;1382041 wrote:I'd agree with that. In fact, I think the whole team does it against OSU. Nervous for tonight even at home.

Webbie, as much as it pains me to say it, I think your boys are gonna' take it to us. Tsun by 12.

vball10set;1382057 wrote:Webbie, as much as it pains me to say it, I think your boys are gonna' take it to us. Tsun by 12.

Yea, I'd be surprised if tonight's game was close at all.

You guys have more confidence than I! I think UM wins, but I still think it will be closer than that.

se-alum;1382073 wrote:Yea, I'd be surprised if tonight's game was close at all.

That's why I'm glad for once that OSU has a 9 p.m. start. I'll be good and gone by tip-off, so any disappointment will be dulled by the alcohol!

Heretic;1382106 wrote:That's why I'm glad for once that OSU has a 9 p.m. start. I'll be good and gone by tip-off, so any disappointment will be dulled by the alcohol!

I'm contemplating DVR'ing it and only watching it if we win, or at least play well. I hate watching games I think we'll get pummeled in.

Michigan still doesn't have a great win and no good ones on the road.
BUT, I think they'll likely put it to us tonight. Um by 13-17

Midstate01;1382140 wrote:Michigan still doesn't have a great win and no good ones on the road.
BUT, I think they'll likely put it to us tonight. Um by 13-17

Yeah, if you take out the wins over top 25 teams you are right.

WebFire;1382178 wrote:Yeah, if you take out the wins over top 25 teams you are right.

Win, not wins. Isnt Minny the only ranked team right now that Michigan beat? I dont count that as a great win, but on the road, its easily a good win.

Of course, I think they are a top 3 team. Just stating that Midstate isnt exactly wrong in his statement.

Laley23;1382214 wrote:Win, not wins. Isnt Minny the only ranked team right now that Michigan beat? I dont count that as a great win, but on the road, its easily a good win.

Of course, I think they are a top 3 team. Just stating that Midstate isnt exactly wrong in his statement.

You are thinking of OSU, who has beat 1. Michigan has beat 3, all on the road or neutral court. Pitt, Kansas St and Minny.

Laley23;1382214 wrote:Win, not wins. Isnt Minny the only ranked team right now that Michigan beat? I dont count that as a great win, but on the road, its easily a good win.

Of course, I think they are a top 3 team. Just stating that Midstate isnt exactly wrong in his statement.

UM beat Kansas State and Pitt.

Midstate01;1382140 wrote:Michigan still doesn't have a great win and no good ones on the road.
BUT, I think they'll likely put it to us tonight. Um by 13-17

Depends on perspective.

Record against Top 25 WHEN THEY WERE PLAYED: 2-2. Wins at home with #18 NC State (no longer ranked) and at #9 Minnesota (currently #18). Losses at #15 OSU (currently #10) and at #3 Indiana (currently #1).

Also have home wins over Kansas State (#13 AP, #15 coaches) and Pitt (#23 AP) before they were ranked at the beginning of the year.

I'd definitely give them kudos for the win at Minnesota. It was game two of a four-game losing streak for them, but the only home loss they've had other than Duke in November. And came right after that narrow loss at Indiana, meaning they won a road game over a highly-ranked opponent coming off a tough loss on the road — which is never easy. The home wins over K-State (particularly) and Pitt look better now than they did in November, while NC State's not as impressive. No bad losses also is a positive, since so many really good teams have at least one "what the hell happened here?" game on their record.

For this year, it's hard to be much better than that overall. Ohio State has a great win with their home one over Michigan, but by your standards, that'd be it, as they're 1-4 against ranked teams at the time of the game. And they've done NOTHING of note in road games, blowing it in the second half against Duke (which could have been a second great win) getting killed by a team that's 2-7 in conference play and having three wins over teams with a combined 30-36 record (Purdue, Nebraska, Penn State).

And I could probably skewer about any team like that to where we're wondering if anyone has any great wins that aren't completely counter-balanced by a loss.